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re: Exactly how did Zelensky start his war with Russia?
Posted on 2/19/25 at 12:57 pm to Lord of the Hogs
Posted on 2/19/25 at 12:57 pm to Lord of the Hogs
Yeah, Ukraine was severely outnumbered.
If it is inevitable, then you should expect more larger countries to roll over their smaller neighbors without much pushback. China…
And if Putin can get Trump to break up NATO then it’s open season.
Moldova, Georgia, Lithuania, Latvia, and Estonia wouldn't have much of a chance to win either.
It’s too bad Ukraine agreed to give up their nukes in order to get stabbed in the back.
Good luck convincing any other country to do that ever again.
If it is inevitable, then you should expect more larger countries to roll over their smaller neighbors without much pushback. China…
And if Putin can get Trump to break up NATO then it’s open season.
Moldova, Georgia, Lithuania, Latvia, and Estonia wouldn't have much of a chance to win either.
It’s too bad Ukraine agreed to give up their nukes in order to get stabbed in the back.
Good luck convincing any other country to do that ever again.
This post was edited on 2/19/25 at 12:59 pm
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Posted on 2/19/25 at 12:57 pm to Lord of the Hogs
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Nothing makes sense to you other than you.
The bargain divorce attorney lives in his own reality.
Posted on 2/19/25 at 12:59 pm to Lord of the Hogs
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It’s perfectly logical that the globalists cast the first guy out for Zelensky when they knew he could be controlled easier.
Nothing you say is factual.
You say the 2nd line after making shite up just prior.
Posted on 2/19/25 at 1:01 pm to Gifman
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The bargain divorce attorney lives in his own reality.
I'm the only person posting actual legit citations to facts and contemporary reporting in this thread.
Posted on 2/19/25 at 1:03 pm to stout
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I will buy a one way ticket for he
You will buy a ticket for "he"?
You want people to take you seriously and yet you don't even know your own fricking language?
Posted on 2/19/25 at 1:03 pm to stout
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Did you miss the part where Ukraine has been begging to join the NATO and Putin saying he didn't want NATO on his doorstep?
Ukraine is begging to join Nato because they’re afraid Russia would invade them.
and what did russia do?
What has NATO never done?
This post was edited on 2/19/25 at 1:08 pm
Posted on 2/19/25 at 1:11 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:The same was said of my statements that CV19-vax delivered (indeed mandated) to kids under an EUA was a terrible idea, or that CV19 originated in a Wuhan Lab. You are entitled to your own opinion, misguided as it maybe.
Assumption of facts not in evidence.
But to say facts are not in evidence is silly.
The US directed massive funding toward the overthrow. E.g., The ironically titled National Endowment for Democracy (NED) funded numerous civil society organizations backing the Euromaidan. USAID supported, designed, developed and funded media projects, civic engagement initiatives, etc. with key roles catalysing/organizing the Euromaidan.
Senior U.S. officials, including Assistant Secretary of State Victoria Nuland, openly stated that the U.S. had invested over $5 billion in Ukraine "to promote democracy and civil society" and civil society as she publicly ironically supported the Euromaidan
The International Republican and National Democratic Institutes (aka the Swamp) provided training and support to Ukrainian activists and opposition groups.
The EU was heavily involved too. The European Endowment for Democracy (see a theme?) provided funding to "independent media" and "civil society" organizations in Ukraine which in turn played heavy roles in conducting a coup dètat to overthrow Ukraine's DEMOCRATICALLY ELECTED President
Various EU countries individually funded "pro-democracy" Euromaidan initiatives.
UK-based organizations provided media and civic training.
Western funded NGOs channelled millions and millions of USDs in funding, organization and support toward "the cause." Chief amongst these was the Soros Open Society Foundations which funded Hromadske TV, a key pro-Euromaidan propaganda distributor as well as "grass roots" efforts. It fdurther heavily funded International Renaissance Foundation -- a Ukrainian branch of Soros' OSF. Freedom House NGO in turn funded Ukrainian NGOs "working on democracy" (aka the Ukrainian coup).
These are just the knowns before further DOGE and Trump Admin exposure surfaces.
I could go on including more non-evidence, but will leave there for now.
Posted on 2/19/25 at 1:14 pm to TheShmoo
If Trump declared martial law and stopped elections, what would you call him?
Posted on 2/19/25 at 1:15 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:Wow
There's nothing to indicate any activity in 2013
Posted on 2/19/25 at 1:19 pm to NC_Tigah
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Wow
He tries to type things into existence out of thin air. He thinks people will just buy it.
This post was edited on 2/19/25 at 1:20 pm
Posted on 2/19/25 at 1:31 pm to Gifman
quote:Buy it? For what? It's not worth a Vietnamese dong
He thinks people will just buy it.
Posted on 2/19/25 at 1:35 pm to NC_Tigah
You posted no direct evidence of anything related to a coup.
Your argument has devolved into "dot connecting" and interjecting USAID.
Your argument has devolved into "dot connecting" and interjecting USAID.
Posted on 2/19/25 at 1:36 pm to Gifman
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He tries to type things into existence out of thin air.
Again.
I'm posting citations from legitimate sources for my points.
Posted on 2/19/25 at 1:38 pm to The Torch
quote:Unfortunately, for many of the "little people" ...the riches can only be collected in heaven.
Everyone gets rich during war times.
Posted on 2/19/25 at 1:43 pm to TheShmoo
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Exactly how did Zelensky start his war with Russia?
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The Russo-Ukrainian War began in February 2014. Following Ukraine's Revolution of Dignity, Russia occupied and annexed Crimea from Ukraine and supported pro-Russian separatists fighting the Ukrainian military in the Donbas War.
Further reading. Enjoy
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The Revolution of Dignity, also known as the Ukrainian Revolution took place in Ukraine in February 2014. Deadly clashes between protesters and state forces in the capital of Kyiv culminated in the ousting of President Viktor Yanukovych, the return to the 2004 Constitution of Ukraine, and the outbreak of the 2014 Russo-Ukrainian War.
Zelensky took over from the acting president, who seized power during that coup
Now you know how it all started. The Ukranians did it
Posted on 2/19/25 at 1:43 pm to SlowFlowPro
Your use of "no direct evidence" is for a court of law. Not world events. Very coy. Very cute.
Posted on 2/19/25 at 1:43 pm to SlowFlowPro
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You posted no direct evidence of anything related to a coup.
I know it ... no evidence of involvement at allll ... 
Posted on 2/19/25 at 1:45 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:"Assumptions not in evidence."
legitimate sources
Posted on 2/19/25 at 1:46 pm to AGGIES
quote:Oh no!!!
AGGIES
Posted on 2/19/25 at 1:55 pm to NC_Tigah
Slo would say?
There is no direct evidence western powers scuttled the 2022 peace attempts.
Z wanted it. The west said we don't support that.
There is no direct evidence western powers scuttled the 2022 peace attempts.
Z wanted it. The west said we don't support that.
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