re: Evidence that Common Core is garbage continues to mount

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Looks like CC is working. Before CC, CA teachers would just pass everybody and students not ready would jump into Algebra. Now, those students have to be able to pass a test in order to take the class.

Keep in mind that the graph shows percentage taking the class, which is dropping because CA educated students can't just be funneled through the system like they were pre-CC.

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That's just stupid.

They aren't learning either way.

Sometimes, holding a kid back is the proper course of action, but it almost never happens any more. With federal money tied to school performance, kids are promoted regardless of ability in order to keep the cash coming in.

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Looks like CC is working. Before CC, CA teachers would just pass everybody and students not ready would jump into Algebra. Now, those students have to be able to pass a test in order to take the class.

Keep in mind that the graph shows percentage taking the class, which is dropping because CA educated students can't just be funneled through the system like they were pre-CC.

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Astounding.

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The silly thing is the following: arithemtic != mathematics

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I don't agree with children. I don't agree with the way Common Core teaches arithmetics, but I think it is important that children learn how to calculate the mathematics. This builds their thinking skills and they learn how math works from the inside out. This is important. When you are older and already know this, then the importantance does go more to the application of the mathematics.

I don't quite get the article it seems to contradict itself.

On the one hand it says achievement has dropped.

On the other it indicates math is now easier.

I don't see how those two go together.

If a given year's 8th grade cohort in the first graph corresponds to the same cohort 4 years later, in the second graph, then there is a 0.83 correlation between them with the biggest outlier in the 2010-2014 cohort where the test result decreased the year before the new test. Excluding that data point there is a 0.94 correlation.

So given that there is a different test, which adds error to it, the article doesn't make a compelling case given that the relationship between the 8th grade results and 12th grade results is very strong.

Why are you people showing California stats? How about some rankings from LA compared to the rest of the United States?

CC may not have worked, and was poorly implemented but some things never change and this is one of them.

1. New Hampshire (Chris Sununu, R)
2. Minnesota (Mark Dayton, D)
3. Vermont (Phil Scott, R)
4. Utah (Gary Herbert, R)
5. Colorado (John Hickenlooper, D)
6. Massachusetts (Charlie Baker, R)
7. Iowa (Kim Reynolds, R)
8. Wyoming (Matt Mead, R)
9. Maine (Paul LePage, R)
10. Wisconsin (Scott Walker, R)
11. Idaho (Butch Otter, R)
12. Hawaii (David Ige, D)
13. Connecticut (Dannel Malloy, D)
14. Virginia (Ralph Northam, D)
15. New Jersey (Phil Murphy, D)
16. Washington (Jay Inslee, D)
17. Nebraska (Pete Ricketts, R)
18. North Dakota (Doug Burgum, R)
19. Montana (Steve Bullock, D)
20. Maryland (Larry Hogan, R)
21. Oregon (Kate Brown, D)
22. South Dakota (Dennis Daugaard, R)
23. Kansas (Jeff Colyer, R)
24. Pennsylvania (Tom Wolf, D)
25. Alaska (Bill Walker, I)
26. Rhode Island (Gina Raimondo, D)
27. California (Jerry Brown, D)
28. Delaware (John Carney, D)
29. New York (Andrew Cuomo, D)
30. Arizona (Doug Ducey, R)
31. Illinois (Bruce Rauner, R)
32. Indiana (Eric Holcomb, R)
33. Missouri (Eric Greitens, R)
34. Florida (Rick Scott, R)
35. Ohio (John Kasich, R)
36. Michigan (Rick Snyder, R)
37. Texas (Greg Abbott, R)
38. District of Columbia (Muriel Bowser, D, mayor)
39. North Carolina (Roy Cooper, D)
40. Nevada (Brian Sandoval, R)
41. New Mexico (Susana Martinez, R)
42. South Carolina (Henry McMaster, R)
43. Kentucky (Matt Bevin, R)
44. Georgia (Nathan Deal, R)
45. Tennessee (Bill Haslam, R)
46. Oklahoma (Mary Fallin, R)
47. West Virginia (Jim Justice, R)
48. Alabama (Kay Ivey, R)
49. Arkansas (Asa Hutchinson, R)
50. Mississippi (Phil Bryant, R)
51. Louisiana (John Bel Edwards, D)

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the number of eighth graders taking Algebra I in California dropped precipitously

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Since when is Algebra I an elective for 8th graders?

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I took it in 8th grade.

In 1980-81

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So did I.

So did my kids.

So, how does the number of 8th graders "taking Algebra I" drop?

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You mean being arrogant enough to think you can reinvent simple arithmetic has consequences?

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My kid's elementary school had me in for a parent/teacher conference with the teacher and vice-principal, where I was asked to stop teaching my daughter different math principles than they were teaching. "Why?", you might ask. Well, I didn't like the direction that they were going, and she was struggling, so I used an older math teaching textbook from the 80's, and I taught her at home using that. The problem for the school was that she had learned from me how to add, subtract, divide and multiply in her head and could answer the questions 2-3 times faster than the other kids were doing using the math methods they were teaching the kids. And this was a problem for the school because while technically she was getting the answers correct, she was not providing the school with the "right method" of doing it. They wanted me to stop, because she was going to be getting poor grades from them for not using the "right method".

My answer was to tell them no, and that they needed to have an advanced math class for kids that didn't need to learn "their method" and who could progress more rapidly. Their reply? "We don't have the budget for that."

So I took that as a challenge, and met with the district superintendent, and showed him the work that my daughter was able to do using the teaching methods from the 1980's, and that unless he wanted that story plastered all over local media, I suggested that an advanced math class was in order. Amazingly, a week later, my daughter and 14 other kids were moved into an advanced mathematics class with a new teacher. This proved to me that they knew there were other kids having the same problems and needing to not be held back, but were ignoring the problem.

Today, she is a junior in high school and making straight As in AP Physics and AP Calculus. I have zero question in my mind that had I left her to the clutches of the school system to teach her mathematics, she would have lost interest and be nowhere near as strong in it as she is now.

Also, no pics.

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Common Core isn't the first time the establishment has tried to change, and dumb down math. For you younger parents on here Google "SMSG Math 1960s". This was another program that was a massive failure. It was tried on me in elementary school.

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Common Core doesn't dumb down math though. It's just a set of uniform standards and objectives for the various content areas. In fact, a lot of times the standards are probably unreasonably high and not developmentally appropriate. And I think whether the standards are appropriate or flexible enough are where the criticisms should lie.

A lot of the hoopla about math is based on some ridiculous curriculum that was designed around Common Core that SOME districts adopted. It deserves criticism but that's a criticism about curriculum not the standards since there are alternatives that aren't ridiculous.

I'm not sure Common Core has had much of an impact either way besides making things a little easier to compare school to school, district to district, and state to state. Given that, I'm not sure why people would be get worked up over my either way.