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re: "Everybody hates Israel because of this" - DJT

Posted on 6/4/26 at 3:01 pm to
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
28371 posts
Posted on 6/4/26 at 3:01 pm to
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I was confused as to why the solo cam was asking if I was willing to go or send my own kids to fight and possibly die for Israel or just others' kids, as if I was in support of fighting for them at all.


Yep, because you walked into a thread about the Iran War and completely ignored the topic and instead started talking about people's souls being saved. That poster had no idea what your stance on this issue was because you didn't contribute to the topic.

But keep on using your Christian apologist reasoning and pretend salvation is "on topic".
This post was edited on 6/4/26 at 3:30 pm
Posted by LittleJerrySeinfield
350,000 Post Karma
Member since Aug 2013
11394 posts
Posted on 6/4/26 at 3:28 pm to
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In two months they've blown up over 40,000 homes. Hospitals and church's as well including Christian churches from
The crusades.

This is amazing that now yall are siding with Israel and war over America and peace.


And he claims to be a pastor.
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
47091 posts
Posted on 6/4/26 at 5:01 pm to
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Yep, because you walked into a thread about the Iran War and completely ignored the topic and instead started talking about people's souls being saved.
My comment was directed toward one aspect of the topic (Trump's comment). I'm free to speak as I wish, and others in this thread have said similar things regarding not hating Israel (focusing on Trump's comment). You don't seem to care that others were "off-topic" as you see it, because they didn't also back up their lack of hatred with reasoning related to a Christian message.

It seems you are being selective in expressing your concern. I wonder why.

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That poster had no idea what your stance on this issue was because you didn't contribute to the topic.
Several comments on the first page did not directly address support for or against a war. The other poster was being selective in their concern, as well, it seems.

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But keep on using your Christian apologist reasoning and pretend salvation is "on topic".
I will. I've already explained myself, so if you don't understand it or don't agree, that's a "you" problem.
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
28371 posts
Posted on 6/4/26 at 5:16 pm to
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It seems you are being selective in expressing your concern. I wonder why.


Your one note routine is as annoying as our resident posters. You often open with a post about salvation when it's not remotely related to the topic.

You could have said "I dont hate Israel, I just wish they'd recycle more." and it be just as relevant to the topic at hand.
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
47091 posts
Posted on 6/5/26 at 6:48 am to
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Your one note routine is as annoying as our resident posters.
Now we get to the heart of it. You find my posts annoying.

That explains why you keep pushing this after I showed you the connection between the OP and my initial post.

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You often open with a post about salvation when it's not remotely related to the topic.
Do you have any examples of when I have done this where it is unrelated to the topic?

Most of the time it is related to a sinful act someone has committed, as described by the OP.

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You could have said "I dont hate Israel, I just wish they'd recycle more." and it be just as relevant to the topic at hand.
Not at all. I think this is where your ignorance or blindness to Christian theology and the gospel is getting you riled up over nothing.

The reason why I mentioned my hope for their repentance and salvation is because that is the greatest good I could possibly wish on them. If they continue to reject Jesus as Lord and Messiah, they will die with the guilt of their sins before them and go to hell for eternity. That is a just but horrible fate for them.

When I say I don’t hate them and then follow that with a hope for salvation, I’m supporting my claim that I don’t hate them with a statement that I want the best possible good for them. That’s what Christians are supposed to do.

So once again, I stand by my claim that it was completely relevant to the topic in the sense that Trump’s claim that everyone hates Israel for what they do is not true for me, because I want the best possible outcome for them: salvation through Jesus Christ.
Posted by Tiger in NY
Neptune Beach, FL
Member since Sep 2003
31603 posts
Posted on 6/5/26 at 6:55 am to
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It's almost like Israel wants to drag America into war with their neighbors


Bingo
Posted by TNTigerman
James Island
Member since Sep 2012
12110 posts
Posted on 6/5/26 at 7:13 am to
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I don't hate Israel, but I want those in Israel to repent of their rejection of Jesus Christ and to trust in Him for the forgiveness of their sins.


There are many passages in the Bible that prophecy the return of the Jewish people to the Land in the last days in unbelief, then this happens:

10 “And I will pour out on the house of David and the inhabitants of Jerusalem a spirit[a] of grace and supplication. They will look on[b] me, the one they have pierced, and they will mourn for him as one mourns for an only child, and grieve bitterly for him as one grieves for a firstborn son.
Posted by UtahCajun
Member since Jul 2021
6273 posts
Posted on 6/5/26 at 7:21 am to
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Palestine is not, and never was, anything of relevance. The only reason they exist is to be a direct opposition to Israel by claiming something that was never theirs, ever.

They are grabbing Christian land in Lebanon, not Palestine.

As far as your "Palestine is not, and never was, anything of relevance" comment is concerned. You should read some history. You would find out that it was a thing before Isreal was a thing and the Zionists of 1939 is beginning of everything.

History of Palestine Post British Rule
Posted by winkchance
St. George, LA
Member since Jul 2016
6736 posts
Posted on 6/5/26 at 7:51 am to
The whole of the middle east is never happy unless they are fighting. For over 4000 years.
Posted by UtahCajun
Member since Jul 2021
6273 posts
Posted on 6/5/26 at 8:05 am to
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Also why do you give a shite about what Israel is doing in Lebanon when your whole argument is we shouldn’t be concerned with Iran?


Part of what Iran wants is for Israel to stop actions in Lebanon. Since the bulk of Israeli actions, in Lebanon, were against Christian villages, it would seem that Iran cares more about the treatment and lives of Christians than you do.

What a friggin dumbass you are piggie. But hey, as long as we show those Iranians, it's all cool man.
This post was edited on 6/5/26 at 8:06 am
Posted by JasonDBlaha
Woodlands, Texas
Member since Apr 2023
4794 posts
Posted on 6/5/26 at 8:59 am to
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I don't hate Israel, but I want those in Israel to repent of their rejection of Jesus Christ and to trust in Him for the forgiveness of their sins.


You worship a Jewish rabbi, congratulations
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
47091 posts
Posted on 6/5/26 at 9:20 am to
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You worship a Jewish rabbi, congratulations
I worship the 2nd person of the Godhead, Jesus Christ, the God-man, who is Lord of lords and King of kings, and who died to pay the debt of sin that we all owe to the Father so that we can be forgiven and have eternal life.

He's more than a "Jewish rabbi".
Posted by Boudreauboudreaugoly
Land of the Rice n Son
Member since Oct 2017
3054 posts
Posted on 6/5/26 at 9:34 am to
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Religion and war go hand in hand.


Always has, always will.
Posted by Nomad0369
Member since Jun 2026
53 posts
Posted on 6/5/26 at 9:35 am to
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It's almost like Israel wants to drag America into war with their neighbors.


I’ve seen no evidence of Israel trying to drag the US into a war in Lebanon or Gaza
Posted by Sams Crow
Member since Apr 2026
246 posts
Posted on 6/5/26 at 1:54 pm to
Religion or religious?
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
47091 posts
Posted on 6/5/26 at 1:56 pm to
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Religion and war go hand in hand.
Always has, always will.
Not necessarily. Sin is the cause of all conflict, not "religion". The Christian religion--when applied consistently--does not result in war unless it's defensive against some aggressor.
Posted by Solo Cam
Member since Sep 2015
35110 posts
Posted on 6/5/26 at 2:40 pm to
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I’ve seen no evidence of Israel trying to drag the US into a war in Lebanon or Gaza
Don't really need a big bully ally when your bombing women and children and blowing up churches and homes.

Plus we give them all their weapons anyways.

That's not the fight they want Americans to die for.

But say big dog- you or your son going to enlist if we go boots on the ground in Iran?
Posted by Nomad0369
Member since Jun 2026
53 posts
Posted on 6/5/26 at 2:49 pm to
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you or your son going to enlist if we go boots on the ground in Iran?

I was a Marine infantryman in the Iraq war and my son is enlisting in the Navy in a couple months.
Posted by LsuNav
Sacramento
Member since Mar 2008
2221 posts
Posted on 6/5/26 at 3:25 pm to
Israel act in the best interest of Israel. I don’t think they make any apologies about that. How can anyone blame them? I say this as a guy who is not a fan
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
28371 posts
Posted on 6/5/26 at 3:32 pm to
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Now we get to the heart of it. You find my posts annoying.


Never hid that.

You've always known that.

Not why I responded to you at first, as I've already explained.

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Do you have any examples of when I have done this where it is unrelated to the topic?


Besides this one? Sure, you don't it quite often. But I dont feel like digging through your post history. I'll start calling everyone out that I see since you asked.

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Not at all. I think this is where your ignorance or blindness to Christian theology and the gospel is getting you riled up over nothing.

The reason why I mentioned my hope for their repentance and salvation is because that is the greatest good I could possibly wish on them. If they continue to reject Jesus as Lord and Messiah, they will die with the guilt of their sins before them and go to hell for eternity. That is a just but horrible fate for them.

When I say I don’t hate them and then follow that with a hope for salvation, I’m supporting my claim that I don’t hate them with a statement that I want the best possible good for them. That’s what Christians are supposed to do.

So once again, I stand by my claim that it was completely relevant to the topic in the sense that Trump’s claim that everyone hates Israel for what they do is not true for me, because I want the best possible outcome for them: salvation through Jesus Christ.


No, I'm riled up because a half tree fell in my backyard and its an HOA community property tree and they're dragging their feet.
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