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Nomad0369
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re: Official US/Israel vs Iran war thread
Posted by Nomad0369 on 6/7/26 at 8:31 am to RockyMtnTigerWDE
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What’s laughable is you thinking they don’t need money to fund their hateful proxy wars and fund their jihad. Hate isn’t going to buy material, weapons, and personnel who can’t feed themselves and families.
Okay we so blockade them indefinitely and they can’t fund their proxies. They’ll just keep the strait shutdown with drones, missiles and mines. We have to forcibly take and hold the strait of Hormuz.
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re: Official US/Israel vs Iran war thread
Posted by Nomad0369 on 6/7/26 at 7:53 am to omegaman66
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Also false. They can't use the strait. All exports are via land routes and at greatly reduced amounts.
They certainly can use the strait. They can’t go much further than though because our navy will stop them in the gulf of Oman or the Arabian Sea. The real problem is the rest of the gulf nations not being able to sell any of their oil. That’s a bigger deal than Iran not being able to trade.
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If Iran controlled the Strait they would be sending their tankers to China. They can’t because they don’t control it.
Nope. We stop their ships in the Arabian Sea or the gulf of Oman. Their inability to move ships in and out of port has nothing ti do with the strait of Hormuz. Iran controlling the strait is denying the other gulf countries from moving their oil.
re: Official US/Israel vs Iran war thread
Posted by Nomad0369 on 6/7/26 at 7:45 am to omegaman66
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The US navy has escorted quite a few vessels thru the strait.
No. They haven’t. They’ve “guided” several through but not technically escorted them through and total traffic thru the strait is about 7% of what it was prior to the war. It’s a trickle at best. Not even worth really mentioning to be honest.
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Nor am I debating it. The US has COMPLETELY blockaded Iran by sea. Iran has MOSTLY blockaded most others. The US therefore has more control. If the US needs to get a ship through the Strait, or a hundred ships, it can do so - and has. Iran cannot get a canoe through. Those are the facts, and they are not debatable.
The only thing that matters is that Iran is denying the use of the Strait of Hormuz. They’ve proven that they can do that whenever they want. We could stop them of course but it would cost us men and materials. Maybe even a ship or two. The administration has obviously decided that it isn’t worth it or they don’t want the political fallout from a bunch of dead servicemen. The gulf nations and the rest of the world sees this.
So our ability to open the strait by force is irrelevant because we’re not willing to pay the price.
re: Official US/Israel vs Iran war thread
Posted by Nomad0369 on 6/7/26 at 6:19 am to UptownJoeBrown
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I know those bodies of water look kinda small on a map, but maybe realize how big they really are. Impossible to protect 100%.
That’s what escort convoys are for. The ground based pumping stations are being defended by ground based air defenses and a mix of fixed and rotary wing assets shooting down drones.
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The US has the most control, and Iran has the next most, but obviously neither controls it.
Negative. The US is blockading vessels from going to Iran in the Arabian Sea. Iran is denying passage through the strait with the threat of drones and missiles. If we “controlled” the strait then oil from the other gulf nations would be transiting and reaching the global markets.
Iran is denying access to a large portion of the world’s oil supply by denying the use of the strait of Hormuz. That’s not debatable.
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Because they don’t control it. Same as why Iran doesn’t.
So who controls it?
re: Official US/Israel vs Iran war thread
Posted by Nomad0369 on 6/6/26 at 8:26 pm to Captain Rumbeard
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They are bringing in no oil money as long at the blockade exists.
Neither is anyone else. Driving up oil prices worldwide. Iran has effectively shut down the most economically important waterway on the planet with the threat of cheap drones and missiles. We could stop it if we wanted to but it would come at a price that clearly the administration isn’t willing to pay. Time is absolutely on Iran’s side. They’re just waiting us out under the guise of negotiations.
Send the navy into the strait. Put ground troops on the island and increase the bombing campaign. Then time will no longer being on Iran’s side.
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What? If that’s true why aren’t they sending their oil tankers through it?
Why isn’t anyone else sending their oil tankers through?
re: Official US/Israel vs Iran war thread
Posted by Nomad0369 on 6/6/26 at 6:30 pm to tigeraddict
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The US doesn’t get much of of its trade from freight/oil carriers originating from the Persian gulf.
Irrelevant. The economy is tied to global oil prices.
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Why do we need to push the issue at risk to us troops if it’s not needed. Iran not able to sell the bulk of its oil is killing its currency. Without its petro exports I’d will have a hard time paying for its imports.
Iran currently controls the strait of Hormuz for all intents and purposes. Time is absolutely on their side.
re: Official US/Israel vs Iran war thread
Posted by Nomad0369 on 6/6/26 at 5:55 pm to UptownJoeBrown
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Great. Now tell us how to protect shipping in the rest of the Persian Gulf, Gulf of Oman, the Arabian Sea, the Red Sea, and the Gulf of Aden.
The large naval presence mentioned in my above post.
re: Official US/Israel vs Iran war thread
Posted by Nomad0369 on 6/6/26 at 5:34 pm to ItTakesAThief
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The islands won’t absorb it. IS troops on the islands will.
That’s what I meant.
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One wants to be used as cannon fodder. They won’t have access to bunkers there.
The military is a dangerous job.
re: Official US/Israel vs Iran war thread
Posted by Nomad0369 on 6/6/26 at 5:24 pm to omegaman66
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You have to control the entire area to secure the strait, not just a few locations. As long as they can fire into the strait, doesn't matter where from, shopping will avoid it.
Yes. That’s where the naval escorts come in. The islands will absorb a lot of the drones and missiles relieving pressure on the ships transiting the strait.
re: Official US/Israel vs Iran war thread
Posted by Nomad0369 on 6/6/26 at 2:54 pm to omegaman66
We’d control the strait instead of Iran. It’s about everyone else’s oil tankers, not theirs.
re: Official US/Israel vs Iran war thread
Posted by Nomad0369 on 6/6/26 at 2:03 pm to Auburn1968
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That island up at the top of the Strait would make an "unsinkable aircraft carrier" should we take it. It would be a big loss of face to the IRGC especially if it was known that we wouldn't give it back as long as the regime isn't changed. The question is how to protect it from drones.
You protect it by putting a large amount of air defenses on it. It’ll basically act as a sponge for most of the drones and missiles that would otherwise be intended for threatening shipping through the strait. Combine that with a large naval presence patrolling the strait we should be able to keep the sea lanes open for commercial traffic. And everytime Iran launches a drone or missile we’d have an opportunity to target its launch point.
It doesn’t appear that the civilians are going to rise up against the regime so this is probably the only way to salvage a “win” from this war.
re: Official US/Israel vs Iran war thread
Posted by Nomad0369 on 6/6/26 at 8:52 am to Diego Ricardo
Or we could just forcefully reopen the strait. It’ll cost us some lives but that’s what happens in a war.
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Iran wants the US to break the ceasefire, that’s what they are trying to get us to do.
We should oblige them
Not gonna lie, that’s pretty damn impressive.
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Again why do you think they are a very non violent religion, not you heard they are, or you always hear they are, what evidence do you have that they actually are?
I’ve met a bunch of them. Had a coworker that I lived with in Africa who was a Sikh. All of the ones I’ve met have been upstanding cool dudes. What’s your experience with them besides asking some AI bot to cherry pick some random violent acts over the years?
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Posted by Nomad0369 on 6/5/26 at 7:23 pm to LuckyTiger
Other than the comment about rural Americans I can’t say there’s much to disagree with to be honest.
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