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re: Europe offers to remove all tariffs on U.S. industrial goods if U.S. matches

Posted on 4/7/25 at 11:24 am to
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
57778 posts
Posted on 4/7/25 at 11:24 am to
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For their own mutual and collective benefit. Not unlike the reason any federation, including ours, formed.


You answered your own question.
Posted by David Fellows
Chicago but Georgia on my mind
Member since Mar 2024
1578 posts
Posted on 4/7/25 at 11:27 am to
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But roger and sfp said


Those guys are faags.
Posted by Pfft
Member since Jul 2014
4865 posts
Posted on 4/7/25 at 11:28 am to
frick that, we should get 5% for propping their asses up for the last 80 years.
Posted by Corinthians420
Iowa
Member since Jun 2022
16104 posts
Posted on 4/7/25 at 11:44 am to
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frick that, we should get 5% for propping their asses up for the last 80 years

Propping them up by allowing them to tax their own citizens.

I guess if europe pays high taxes we should too
Posted by mhasen1
Texas
Member since Feb 2008
1864 posts
Posted on 4/7/25 at 11:48 am to
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So now we're telling them how to write their own tax code?


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So we are telling nations how to tax their citizens?


The OECD is literally the EU telling the US how to write it's tax code. And the EU repeatedly stated that the US could face retaliatory measures if the US didn't align it's corporate tax code with the global minimum tax.

But that's different because Orange Man Bad.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
35881 posts
Posted on 4/7/25 at 11:48 am to
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You answered your own question.

So should Germany dissolve as well, because after all its a federation? Maybe dealing with NRW or Bavaria alone would be more advantageous to the US.

Should Brussels or Beijing feel entitled to negotiate trade deals with Wyoming or Michigan?
This post was edited on 4/7/25 at 11:49 am
Posted by momentoftruth87
Your mom
Member since Oct 2013
86110 posts
Posted on 4/7/25 at 11:52 am to
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Good lord


He really hates Trump and America.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
467758 posts
Posted on 4/7/25 at 11:53 am to
I volunteer to negotiate with Wales
Posted by ChatGPT of LA
Member since Mar 2023
4663 posts
Posted on 4/7/25 at 11:53 am to
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with nation like Europe


Ummmm. Yeah, about that...

Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
62653 posts
Posted on 4/7/25 at 11:54 am to
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Propping them up by allowing them to tax their own citizens.

I guess if europe pays high taxes we should too
And don't forget that sweet, sweet socialized medicine!
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
57050 posts
Posted on 4/7/25 at 11:54 am to
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I thought the goal was the return of American Manufacturing?


So you've conceded that retaliatory tariffs will work then. Because that was your initial argument. But i see you are moving the goalposts. It's ok, i can knock it through those too.

LINK

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Johnson & Johnson: On Friday, Johnson & Johnson announced manufacturing, research and development, and technology investments of more than $55 billion in the U.S. over the next four years. They say it represents a 25 percent increase in investment compared to the previous four years under President Joe Biden, crediting an increase in investment levels to the 2017 Tax Cuts & Jobs Act. Also on Friday, the company broke ground on a 500,000-square-foot biologics manufacturing facility in Wilson, North Carolina.
SoftBank: On Monday, SoftBank CEO Masayoshi Son visited Trump at Mar-a-Lago and announced a $100 billion investment over the next four years with a promise to create 100,000 jobs focused on artificial intelligence and related infrastructure, according to CNBC.
United Arab Emirates: After a meeting with Trump, the United Arab Emirates committed to a 10-year, $1.4 trillion agreement with the U.S. that will sustain existing investments in AI infrastructure, semiconductors, energy, and American manufacturing, according to Reuters.
Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Company: Semiconductor giant TSMC announced earlier this month in response to Trump's tariffs threat on foreign chips that it would invest another $100 billion into its U.S. operations. The anticipated new chip fabrication plants, two advanced packaging facilities, and a new research and design center will increase the company's total investment in Phoenix to $165 billion—the largest foreign direct investment in U.S. history.
In January, Trump announced a $500 billion private investment in AI infrastructure led by OpenAI, Oracle and SoftBank.
Apple: Tech giant Apple announced a $500 billion investment.
Nvidia: On Thursday, the White House announced that chipmaker Nvidia would invest hundreds of billions of dollars over the next four years in U.S.-based manufacturing operations.


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Apple announced a historic $500 billion investment, which will create 20,000 new U.S.-based jobs.
President Trump announced a $500 billion private investment in artificial intelligence infrastructure — with major CEOs agreeing it would not have been possible without President Trump’s leadership.
TSMC announced an unprecedented $100 billion investment in U.S.-based semiconductor chip manufacturing.
Eli Lilly and Company announced a $27 billion investment in its U.S.-based manufacturing.
President Trump announced shipping giant CMA CGM will invest $20 billion in U.S. shipping and logistics, which will create 10,000 new American jobs.
President Trump announced a $20 billion investment by DAMAC Properties to build new U.S.-based data centers.
Wisconsin-based Clarios, a leader in low-voltage energy storage, announced a $6 billion plan to expand its U.S.-based manufacturing.
Stellantis announced a $5 billion investment to reopen its Belvidere, Illinois, assembly plant — which will put 1,500 employees back to work — and make improvements across its U.S.-based manufacturing network.
GE Aerospace announced a $1 billion investment in its manufacturing operations across 16 states — creating 5,000 new jobs.
Merck announced it will invest $8 billion in the U.S. over the next several years after opening its new $1 billion North Carolina manufacturing facility.
GE Vernova announced it will invest nearly $600 million in its U.S.-based factories over the next two years, which will create more than 1,500 new jobs.
Diageo North America announced a $415 million investment in a new Alabama manufacturing facility.
Eaton announced a $340 million investment in a new South Carolina-based manufacturing facility for its three-phase transformers.
Siemens announced a $285 million investment in U.S. electrical product manufacturing, which will create more than 900 new skilled manufacturing jobs.
Switzerland-based ABB announced a $120 million investment to expand production of its low-voltage electrification products in Tennessee and Mississippi.
Saica Group, a Spain-based corrugated packaging maker, announced plans to build a $110 million new manufacturing facility in Anderson, Indiana.
Saint Gobain Ceramics announced a new $40 million NorPro manufacturing facility in Wheatfield, New York.
Asahi Group Holdings, one of the largest Japanese beverage makers, announced a $35 million investment to boost production at its Wisconsin plant.
LGM Pharma announced a $6 million investment to expand its manufacturing facility in Rosenberg, Texas.
ViDARR Inc., a defense optical equipment manufacturer, announced a $2.69 million investment to open a new facility in Virginia.
Posted by BlackAdam
Member since Jan 2016
7054 posts
Posted on 4/7/25 at 11:56 am to
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VAT would have to be in play as well for US to accept


I get this sentiment, but doesn't relative strength of the dollar overcome at least some portion of VAT?
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
57050 posts
Posted on 4/7/25 at 11:58 am to
More manufacturing...

LINK

Overland AI Opens New Factory for Manufacturing Advanced Ground Autonomy
Freedman Seating Company Expands Chicago Manufacturing Facility
Toyota to Start Production New North Carolina Automotive Battery Plant
ZM Trucks Chooses San Bernardino County for First North American Plant
ElectroCraft Expands Ann Arbor Facility to Strengthen U.S. Manufacturing
Corning to Invest $900 Million in New Michigan Facility
ES Foundry to Supply 300 Megawatts of U.S.-Made Solar Cells to Bila Solar
TMEIC Announces Full Operation of New Westport PV Inverter Factory in Texas
Flex Expands U.S. Manufacturing Capacity with New Dallas Facility
ArcelorMittal to Build World-Class Electrical Steel Facility in Alabama
ORBIS Corporation Opens New Manufacturing Plant in Greenville, Texas
Diageo North America Announces New Manufacturing and Warehousing Facility in Alabama
Paris Baguette North America Announces Expansion with First North American Manufacturing Plant in Texas
AeroVironment Expands U.S. Manufacturing with New Facility in Salt Lake City
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298305 posts
Posted on 4/7/25 at 11:59 am to
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you've conceded that retaliatory tariffs will work then


Not at all. Work to do what? Y'all are all over the place.

Trump's precious tariffs worked to bring back a few jobs at hundreds of thousands per job on that taxpayers back.
Is that "working"?
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
57050 posts
Posted on 4/7/25 at 12:05 pm to
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Not at all. Work to do what?


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Europe offers to remove all tariffs on U.S. industrial goods if U.S. matches


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Trump's precious tariffs worked to bring back a few jobs at hundreds of thousands per job on that taxpayers back.
Is that "working"?


How many are a few to you? I gave you 3 links. Try counting the proposed number of jobs and get back to me.

You're spiraling. Just say it. Trump was right, you are wrong.
This post was edited on 4/7/25 at 12:06 pm
Posted by Trevaylin
south texas
Member since Feb 2019
9784 posts
Posted on 4/7/25 at 12:07 pm to
industrial goods......The EU has essentially shut down its industrial manufacturing due to War withe Russia shutting off nat gas, Carbon neutral policies, steel making termination. They really need plastic, metals, etc and working a good spot in the tariff discussion is expected
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298305 posts
Posted on 4/7/25 at 12:08 pm to
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many are a few to you


Last time we lost jobs and slowed GDP growth

How much are you willing to pay for in efficient jobs to return?

Was 800k ea for 1200 factory jobs worth it?
This post was edited on 4/7/25 at 12:10 pm
Posted by fwtex
Member since Nov 2019
3262 posts
Posted on 4/7/25 at 12:13 pm to
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Europe offers to remove all tariffs on U.S. industrial goods if U.S. matches


Possible trap! They will remove tariffs but then impose laws and fines that will impede US goods and services from being sold in Europe.

With the move to more and more censorship in European countries I am almost certain this is their play.
Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
14681 posts
Posted on 4/7/25 at 12:18 pm to
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I thought


I disagree. You haven't used your noodle since the inauguration.

What's happening will be good for both manufacturing and consumers.
Posted by Reagan80
Earth
Member since Feb 2023
1942 posts
Posted on 4/7/25 at 12:27 pm to
That’s a hard no.
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