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re: Europe offers to remove all tariffs on U.S. industrial goods if U.S. matches
Posted on 4/7/25 at 10:18 am to Diamondawg
Posted on 4/7/25 at 10:18 am to Diamondawg
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You one butthurt little bitch, aren't you?
This is fun.
Ya'll have become my entertainment.
Its like reading DU.
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Posted on 4/7/25 at 10:18 am to Indefatigable
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You understand that they EU member states want to collectively bargain things like trade deals right?
Its the entire purpose of the EU, the organization that they founded and belong to.
Your questions have led you down the path of understanding why it would be in the best interest of the United States to choose otherwise. The US has no obligation to bargain with Europe as a whole and shouldn't do so.
It's bad business for trade, but the EU s also antagonistic geopolitically (ex: Ukraine). There's tons of incentive to start pressuring the EU. European countries need their sovereignty back.
Posted on 4/7/25 at 10:19 am to Indefatigable
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THE EUROPEAN UNION IS DISMISSED.
:bangs oversized ceremonial gavel:
Posted on 4/7/25 at 10:21 am to SoWhat
Not sure why VAT matters to be honest. Having lived in UK and Scotland.,, most items had a VAT on them. If they are only charging VAT on imported cars, I agree. If all cars… regardless if domestic or import… are subject to VAT there is nothing to negotiate.
Posted on 4/7/25 at 10:21 am to RaoulDuke504
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Asia and South America
They will do what they are told.
The only ones that like to act like they want to play games are the Europeans.
We arent alike anymore, they are cowards and want pedophilia in their society. We do not.
Posted on 4/7/25 at 10:21 am to RaoulDuke504
This is the ideal outcome
Posted on 4/7/25 at 10:22 am to RaoulDuke504
Money talk board collectively punching the air right now.
Posted on 4/7/25 at 10:22 am to 904
quote:So… NAFTA for europe?
This is the ideal outcome
Posted on 4/7/25 at 10:23 am to scottydoesntknow
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Not enough...come back with a better offer
No. As the undisputed greatest country of all time, we should be aware of our superiority.
Of course we could ask for more, but I say we show some grace.
They wont get it while the Muslims take them over.
They we can bomb it all at once.
This post was edited on 4/7/25 at 10:24 am
Posted on 4/7/25 at 10:23 am to Diamondawg
The issue with Europe is the same issue with Canada. They put up barriers to entry and then also massively subsidize industries that are exporters to the US.
Doing a 100% free trade deal will only balance the playing field so much if the other aspects aren't also negotiated. Where things diverge between Europe and Canada is that Europe does not have the massive set of pass-through Chinese goods that Canada does.
Getting the European deal should be easier on paper, but their massive cultural reliance on governmental partnership/subsidies will make the negotiations drag on for a while.
Doing a 100% free trade deal will only balance the playing field so much if the other aspects aren't also negotiated. Where things diverge between Europe and Canada is that Europe does not have the massive set of pass-through Chinese goods that Canada does.
Getting the European deal should be easier on paper, but their massive cultural reliance on governmental partnership/subsidies will make the negotiations drag on for a while.
Posted on 4/7/25 at 10:25 am to moneyg
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Your questions have led you down the path of understanding why it would be in the best interest of the United States to choose otherwise. The US has no obligation to bargain with Europe as a whole and shouldn't do so.
You seem to have this belief that we can just decide to make deals with them individually.
As if they would do that--despite specifically agreeing not to as the entire foundation for their belonging to the EU. This post was edited on 4/7/25 at 10:26 am
Posted on 4/7/25 at 10:25 am to Tridentds
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Not sure why VAT matters to be honest. Having lived in UK and Scotland.,, most items had a VAT on them. If they are only charging VAT on imported cars, I agree. If all cars… regardless if domestic or import… are subject to VAT there is nothing to negotiate.
I would be in agreement with you but this causes a lot of issues with foreign companies trying to comply with EU tax laws and can lead to heavy fines. Sure, large corporations have their own EU tax teams to make sure they’re in compliance but the little guys are left high and dry.
Posted on 4/7/25 at 10:26 am to SlowFlowPro
yeah, EU's Common Commercial Policy prevents individual trade deals for members.
It's time to dangle some carrots, though.
It's time to dangle some carrots, though.
Posted on 4/7/25 at 10:28 am to SoWhat
quote:don't see why, VAT is also charged on domestically made stuff. There is no way they are going to let us good be VAT free, then we would be undercutting their stuff by like 25%. That's not gonna happen
VAT would have to be in play as well for US to accept
This post was edited on 4/7/25 at 10:30 am
Posted on 4/7/25 at 10:31 am to SoWhat
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VAT would have to be in play as well for US to accept
Yep.
VAT is not applied to exports from the EU, Meaning they are essentially dumping BMW's and Mercedes here as they are cheaper in the US than in Germany where they are made.
Posted on 4/7/25 at 10:33 am to RogerTheShrubber
quote:Nah - I'll stick with butthurt.
This is fun.
Ya'll have become my entertainment.
Its like reading DU.
Posted on 4/7/25 at 10:33 am to Indefatigable
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You seem to have this belief that we can just decide to make deals with them individually. As if they would do that--despite specifically agreeing not to as the entire foundation for their belonging to the EU.
I'm saying that the United States has no obligation to negotiate with the EU. And, we should offer each member country the ability to negotiate directly.
You are focused on the obligations of EU members with themselves.
Let's see what happens when things get tight. It's a perfect example of how tariffs can be used to achieve geopolitical ends. This is a great opportunity to crack the EU.
Posted on 4/7/25 at 10:34 am to Diamondawg
I
They got medicine for that baw. I recommend sleeping on your back in the prison tonight.
quote:
'll stick with butthurt.
They got medicine for that baw. I recommend sleeping on your back in the prison tonight.
Posted on 4/7/25 at 10:37 am to BuckyCheese
quote:How much is our export tax?
VAT is not applied to exports from the EU, Meaning they are essentially dumping BMW's and Mercedes here
This post was edited on 4/7/25 at 10:37 am
Posted on 4/7/25 at 10:39 am to Taxing Authority
Try and make a point.
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