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re: Elon Musk announces he is suing Jamaal Bowman for calling him a thief and Nazi on CNN

Posted on 3/22/25 at 8:42 am to
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
61458 posts
Posted on 3/22/25 at 8:42 am to
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So instead of suing him, if Elon had just called him the n-word, that would be fine?


Is that your suggestion?

Most adults just ignore drama and move on with their lives. He’s just drawing more attention to an inconsequential tv interview

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Just a word. No need to get anyone's feelings hurt right?
He is free to have hurt feelings obviously. The suing part is what is ridiculous.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477233 posts
Posted on 3/22/25 at 8:42 am to
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What could an ordinary citizen do when falsely accused of something like racism in the work place if they can't afford to pay a lawyer for defense?

Well it's a different discussion for normal people and micro impact.

That is a he said/she said situation where even if you could win a judgment, you likely won't collect anything.

For normal people, on the micro scale, it's a different discussion. Just not typically economically viable (and I have been involved in defamation litigation before a few times. Won't touch it now)
Posted by i am dan
NC
Member since Aug 2011
31687 posts
Posted on 3/22/25 at 8:43 am to
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Yea this is my point about Elon having unlimited money. He might not win but he can make it hurt financially and send a message to others to stop slandering him


I'm an big Elon fan.. getting that out first.. and this rant isn't even about Elon or this specific situation.

But slander and libel should not be allowed to limit free speech... I've always thought this. It means you really can't say what you think or want to say. I believe that violates my 1st amendment right, even if it is a "false" negative about someone. I've called Joe Biden a nazi and worse on this board. I've called many people many names on here. Can they sue me? Yeah, texhnically I guess they can... and that's wrong.

I don't care what some idiot on CNN says. Are you forced to listen to him or believe him? Don't we say all the time that words can't hurt?

Or you can just use the sticks and stones method.

I should be able to call anyone anything I like. And they can call me anything they like.
This post was edited on 3/22/25 at 9:11 am
Posted by POTUS2024
Member since Nov 2022
20943 posts
Posted on 3/22/25 at 8:43 am to
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As the CEO of publicly traded companies, as well as having investors for privately held companies, he has a fiduciary duty to shareholders by law. Others sabotaging his image and him not defending it could be seen as a failure of his fiduciary duty on his part.

That's one reason and there are others but explaining things to you is pointless so I won't bother.


If the fiduciary responsibility was meaningful to Elon he wouldn't be producing so much ill will against his businesses. My guess is that Bowman gets some sort of gofundme support and his attorneys embarrass Elon and this suit goes away quickly.
Posted by omegaman66
greenwell springs
Member since Oct 2007
27202 posts
Posted on 3/22/25 at 8:46 am to
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When? Link the posts. Because it looks like you’re just making things up and spreading lies while crying about someone calling Elon Musk names.


So you don't like it when someone lies about you???
Posted by Jbird
Shoot the tires out!
Member since Oct 2012
90772 posts
Posted on 3/22/25 at 8:46 am to
Replying to @CollinRugg
Time to pull another fire alarm, Jamaal.

Posted by deathvalleytiger10
Member since Sep 2009
9283 posts
Posted on 3/22/25 at 8:46 am to
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4cubbies


The softest person on this board calling someone a snowflake.

Pure Gold.
Posted by Houag80
Member since Jul 2019
19576 posts
Posted on 3/22/25 at 8:46 am to
I believe those who had lawyers were able to withstand lawfare and get that shite thrown out. The ones who took a plea, were stupid.
Posted by UncleFestersLegs
Member since Nov 2010
16880 posts
Posted on 3/22/25 at 8:48 am to
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I've always thought this. It means you really can't say what you think or want to say. I believe that violates my 1st amendment right
you're not wrong but if you call someone a corksucker at work, you're probably going home. You have the right i guess but there are consequences. Is that a violation of your free speech?
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
61458 posts
Posted on 3/22/25 at 8:49 am to
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People need to learn lying about others for political clout and to get an emotional reaction from their fanbase has consequences.


But it’s not illegal to lie. The people harping on election fraud look silly and so do people claiming Elon is an actual Nazi also look silly.
Posted by shinerfan
Duckworld(Earth-616)
Member since Sep 2009
28544 posts
Posted on 3/22/25 at 8:49 am to
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(or would CNN pay?).



I can't see CNN being liable for what a non-CNN employee says. As for as the choice to air the segment a sitting US Congressman calling a government official a thief and a Nazi is somewhat newsworthy no matter how dumb the Congressman might be.
Posted by PrettyLights
Member since Oct 2014
1447 posts
Posted on 3/22/25 at 8:50 am to
Hope Elon runs the score up on this shite stain.
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
182541 posts
Posted on 3/22/25 at 8:51 am to
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he wouldn't be producing so much ill will against his businesses


The issue with that is that most of the ill will is driven by the very type of false statements made by Bowman

Posted by UncleFestersLegs
Member since Nov 2010
16880 posts
Posted on 3/22/25 at 8:51 am to
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a sitting US Congressman
*former
Posted by FlySaint
FL Panhandle
Member since May 2018
2566 posts
Posted on 3/22/25 at 8:51 am to
Elon should just buy CNN.
Posted by UncleFestersLegs
Member since Nov 2010
16880 posts
Posted on 3/22/25 at 8:52 am to
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But it’s not illegal to lie
nothing about this is criminal.
Posted by ShinerHorns
El Paso
Member since Jul 2021
5617 posts
Posted on 3/22/25 at 8:52 am to
That would be a great idea. I think Elon should buy any news agency reporting falsehoods against Trump or Elon and let Alex Jones run it instead.
Posted by LRB1967
Tennessee
Member since Dec 2020
23173 posts
Posted on 3/22/25 at 8:52 am to
I hope he wins every cent Bowman has
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
122919 posts
Posted on 3/22/25 at 8:52 am to
You do not comprehend defamation. Your reaction here seems emotional as “Elon man bad”
Posted by shinerfan
Duckworld(Earth-616)
Member since Sep 2009
28544 posts
Posted on 3/22/25 at 8:52 am to
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