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re: Elon Musk announces he is suing Jamaal Bowman for calling him a thief and Nazi on CNN
Posted on 3/22/25 at 8:53 am to i am dan
Posted on 3/22/25 at 8:53 am to i am dan
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I should be able to call anyone anything I like. And they can call me anything they like.
I think the distinction arises when your speech produces harm. Maybe you haven't thought this out, but if you have a diner and you make up fliers about your competitor's diner about how everybody gets food poisoning there, he closes and you profit as a result, was that just "free speech"?
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Posted on 3/22/25 at 8:53 am to UncleFestersLegs
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You have the right i guess but there are consequences.
Those consequences don't, and shouldn’t, involve a courtroom.
Posted on 3/22/25 at 8:53 am to Houag80
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I believe those who had lawyers were able to withstand lawfare and get that shite thrown out.
No. Rudy has a huge judgment against him.
The GA and AZ cases are still ongoing, too.
Trump had his DOJ avoid arguing against its "Unified Executive" theory in the federal Florida case by dismissing the case of his co-Defendants prior to the appeal being heard in the 2nd Circuit.
Many lawyers were disciplined. some disbarred.
Posted on 3/22/25 at 8:54 am to POTUS2024
I have defended against defamation lawsuits for clients. Bowman will not have an easy road even with a gofundme
This post was edited on 3/22/25 at 8:55 am
Posted on 3/22/25 at 8:56 am to DisplacedBuckeye
quote:perhaps not but a newspaper printing a story saying you robbed a liquor store without including "allegedly" well face legal consequences, no?
Those consequences don't, and shouldn’t, involve a courtroom.
Posted on 3/22/25 at 8:57 am to SlowFlowPro
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Well it's a different discussion for normal people and micro impact.
I get that completely.
This is more of letting the shallow idiots know that falsely accusing someone of racism in any environment will have negative consequences on the person accused for a long time
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That is a he said/she said situation where even if you could win a judgment, you likely won't collect anything.
I wasn't looking to "win a judgement" as much as I was looking to make sure I didn't lose my job over something that never happened. Not only that but the near weekly harassment from HR with stupid questioning was annoying as frick. "Tell me, EZE, how are you not a racist". LOLOLOL
Idiots.
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Just not typically economically viable (and I have been involved in defamation litigation before a few times. Won't touch it now)
Well, no, at that point it is just about trying to save your integrity from a bunch of morons. Many people who work hard are willing to pay a price just for that.
Posted on 3/22/25 at 8:58 am to UncleFestersLegs
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nothing about this is criminal.
Which only makes it pettier.
Posted on 3/22/25 at 8:58 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:could we not turn this into a j6 thing? It's actually an interesting conversation about free speech.
No. Rudy has a huge judgment against him.
The GA and AZ cases are still ongoing, too.
Posted on 3/22/25 at 8:58 am to 4cubbies
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Most adults just ignore drama
Posted on 3/22/25 at 8:58 am to 4cubbies
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But it’s not illegal to lie
As a self-proclaimed staunch advocate for criminals, one would think you would know the difference between criminal and civil.
Posted on 3/22/25 at 8:59 am to NIH
quote:Were you representing public figures?
I have defended against defamation lawsuits for clients.
Posted on 3/22/25 at 8:59 am to UncleFestersLegs
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perhaps not but a newspaper printing a story saying you robbed a liquor store without including "allegedly" well face legal consequences, no?
I'm not a newspaper. Are you?
Posted on 3/22/25 at 8:59 am to stout
I don’t concern myself with civil lawsuits.
Posted on 3/22/25 at 9:00 am to 4cubbies
quote:I'm not saying it is or it isn't but you keep bringing up legal vs illegal which isn't an issue
Which only makes it pettier.
Posted on 3/22/25 at 9:00 am to UncleFestersLegs
The issue is what then? Morality?
Posted on 3/22/25 at 9:00 am to DisplacedBuckeye
quote:ok whatever.
I'm not a newspaper. Are you?
Posted on 3/22/25 at 9:01 am to UncleFestersLegs
Yeah, I thought so.
Nice try.
Nice try.
Posted on 3/22/25 at 9:01 am to 4cubbies
Defamation and libel are not limited to public figures. Where did you learn that?
Posted on 3/22/25 at 9:01 am to 4cubbies
quote:then why are you in this thread?
I don’t concern myself with civil lawsuits.
Posted on 3/22/25 at 9:01 am to UncleFestersLegs
Because she hates Elon
Elon man bad
Elon man bad
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