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re: Eliminating the Electoral College Has Pros/Cons Depending on Where You Stand

Posted on 8/2/26 at 10:15 am to
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
39156 posts
Posted on 8/2/26 at 10:15 am to
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As opposed to the current model where only a dozen at most swing states matter


Are you claiming New York, California, Illinois, etc don’t have massive sway on our national government?

You understand the Ec Is meant to BALANCE power between the small and large states. The large states already have the inherent power that comes with being the largest population centers with the largest output and economies. They are already the top powers.

The swing states are meant to take some of that power away from the top dog to give some scraps to the small states so they don’t get overpowered every single time.

You just want to strip any sense of autonomy and power from the small and weak, and give it to the strong and powerful.

In other words. You are trying to enslave the minority to preserve power to the all powerful. The very thing your democrat side claims to be against.
This post was edited on 8/2/26 at 10:21 am
Posted by SquatchDawg
Cohutta Wilderness
Member since Sep 2012
20542 posts
Posted on 8/2/26 at 10:17 am to
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Pro: It would guarantee that the candidate who receives the most individual votes nationwide becomes president, more closely reflecting the direct preference of the overall electorate.


Did you like the world in Hunger Games? Because that’s how you get the world in Hunger Games.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
79752 posts
Posted on 8/2/26 at 10:18 am to
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Retards who don’t understand we aren’t a direct democracy and never have been. I’m sorry they are retarded. You don’t let retards rule the roost. You pet them on their head, give them their toy, and let the grown ups dictate things.


Direct democracy doesn’t mean you select your representative government by popular vote.

Go play with your toys retard. Someone will be along to pat you on the head.
Posted by CastleBravo
Rapid City, SD
Member since Sep 2013
2102 posts
Posted on 8/2/26 at 10:18 am to
The voter fraud in the blue states would be used to further pollute national politics.

how great for the communists.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
175539 posts
Posted on 8/2/26 at 10:18 am to
No. I'm claiming that they're irrelevant in presidential elections. Obviously they have power. And why did you list the blue states and ignore the red ones like Texas and Florida?
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
39156 posts
Posted on 8/2/26 at 10:21 am to
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No. I'm claiming that they're irrelevant in presidential elections. Obviously they have power. And why did you list the blue states and ignore the red ones like Texas and Florida?


How is a state with 55/538 electors “irrelevant”?

By every qualitative measure, California is the single most important state in the electoral college.
This post was edited on 8/2/26 at 10:23 am
Posted by weptiger
Georgia
Member since Feb 2007
11893 posts
Posted on 8/2/26 at 10:59 am to
So the argument for elimination is that America would get even more left and the likes of Gore and Clinton.

No thanks.
Posted by tjv305
Member since May 2015
13013 posts
Posted on 8/2/26 at 11:11 am to
Eliminating the electoral college would guarantee all future presidents are democrats. Democrats states especially California have shown they will cheat in elections . The electoral college makes it a lot harder for democrats to cheat .
Posted by BrodyDad
Member since Dec 2025
336 posts
Posted on 8/2/26 at 11:12 am to
I might could support dropping the EC in exchange for repealing the 17th amendment.
Posted by RFK
Mar-a-Lago
Member since May 2012
3353 posts
Posted on 8/2/26 at 11:20 am to
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As opposed to the current model where only a dozen at most swing states matter
Fair point.

There is an argument that the EC is non-representative in this sense. I gather most here live in smaller population centers (or have different politics than the majority of their large cities).

Kamala may be simply trying to drum up support from far-left donors in anticipation of a 2028 run.
Posted by Keltic Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2006
22284 posts
Posted on 8/2/26 at 11:22 am to
The Democrats / liberals are for it. Enuff said.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
175539 posts
Posted on 8/2/26 at 11:29 am to
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How is a state with 55/538 electors “irrelevant”?

By every qualitative measure, California is the single most important state in the electoral college.

It's irrelevant to presidential elections because it's not in play. It's not going red anytime soon. I think you're misinterpreting things. The only states that matter in presidential elections are seeing states.
Posted by MasterDigger
Member since Nov 2019
3078 posts
Posted on 8/2/26 at 11:30 am to
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• 1824: Andrew Jackson (popular vote winner) lost to John Quincy Adams

• 1876: Samuel Tilden (popular vote winner) lost to Rutherford B. Hayes

• 1888: Grover Cleveland (popular vote winner) lost to Benjamin Harrison

• 2000: Al Gore (popular vote winner) lost to George W. Bush

• 2016: Hillary Clinton (popular vote winner) lost to Donald Trump


I like how this line of 'reasoning' puts the term 'winner' behind the losing candidate and does not place the term 'winner' behind the constitutionally elected president's name.

This is persuasive press coverage of a movement against our current constitution.


Posted by DawgCountry
Great State of GA
Member since Sep 2012
33718 posts
Posted on 8/2/26 at 11:32 am to
He’s also in love with a tranny so all his opinions are invalid
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
39233 posts
Posted on 8/2/26 at 11:33 am to
You left out the House, Senate and 38 states (Constitutional Amendment).
Posted by Marquesa
Atlanta
Member since Nov 2020
1930 posts
Posted on 8/2/26 at 11:36 am to
We are a Republic - look it up.
Posted by everytrueson
Southern California
Member since Mar 2012
7893 posts
Posted on 8/2/26 at 11:42 am to
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RFK


Bet you are bummed you didn’t get a chance to live in Soviet Russia, eh Comrade?
This post was edited on 8/2/26 at 11:43 am
Posted by AquaAg84
Member since May 2013
4080 posts
Posted on 8/2/26 at 11:44 am to
So glad the OP informed of the pros and cons of the EC.

BTW, there are no cons. None.
This post was edited on 8/2/26 at 11:46 am
Posted by RandRules
Member since Mar 2025
541 posts
Posted on 8/2/26 at 11:48 am to
You only want this because it would be easier to cheat your way to victory. And that is sad
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
175539 posts
Posted on 8/2/26 at 12:06 pm to
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BTW, there are no cons. None.

This is a false statement almost 100 percent of the time on any topic.
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