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re: Eliminating the Electoral College Has Pros/Cons Depending on Where You Stand
Posted on 8/2/26 at 1:08 pm to AquaAg84
Posted on 8/2/26 at 1:08 pm to AquaAg84
quote:You don't understand it. The terms answer different questions. “Republic” describes the form of government, “democracy” describes the source of political authority, and “constitutional” describes the legal limits placed on that government. The United States is therefore both a constitutional republic and a representative democracy. Saying it is one does not make it not the other.
Not in this case. We are a Constitutional Republic, not a Democracy. How do you folks not understand this?
Posted on 8/2/26 at 1:09 pm to RFK
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Eliminating the Electoral College Has Pros
Nope.
Posted on 8/2/26 at 1:17 pm to northshorebamaman
Reading comprehension is not your strong suit.
Posted on 8/2/26 at 1:17 pm to RFK
Popular vote would make it very likely that we would have presidents elected with a plurality of only 30%-40-% or leas of the vote.
At least EC always ensures that a president is elected with majority.
Oh and frick off with your popular vote bullshite.
At least EC always ensures that a president is elected with majority.
Oh and frick off with your popular vote bullshite.
Posted on 8/2/26 at 1:19 pm to RFK
Go ahead and try, homosexual.
Please. Try.

Please. Try.
Posted on 8/2/26 at 1:19 pm to OU81TOO
Which part of the definition do you dispute? Point to it and explain why, rather than substituting a reading-comprehension insult for an argument.
Posted on 8/2/26 at 1:23 pm to RFK
Here would be my Great Compromise on the Electoral College.
Top vote getter on the state level wins 2 Electoral Votes, Each Congressional district win gets an additional Electoral Vote.
So in a state like Louisiana. Trump would have won 7 of the state’s electoral votes. One vote would have gone to Harris since it more than likely went Dem.
Top vote getter on the state level wins 2 Electoral Votes, Each Congressional district win gets an additional Electoral Vote.
So in a state like Louisiana. Trump would have won 7 of the state’s electoral votes. One vote would have gone to Harris since it more than likely went Dem.
This post was edited on 8/2/26 at 1:24 pm
Posted on 8/2/26 at 1:23 pm to northshorebamaman
I don't have to explain anything to you. Quit being intentionally obtuse. We probably agree on most things. Your reading comprehension of the constitution is what I'm referring to. Read it and tell me where it uses the word "democracy" anywhere in the document.
Posted on 8/2/26 at 1:27 pm to RFK
There are no pros to eliminating the EC
Posted on 8/2/26 at 1:28 pm to OU81TOO
quote:It doesn’t use the word “democracy,” and I never claimed it did. It also never uses the phrase “constitutional republic.” A constitution establishes institutions; it does not supply the political-science labels for the system those institutions create.
I don't have to explain anything to you. Quit being intentionally obtuse. We probably agree on most things. Your reading comprehension of the constitution is what I'm referring to. Read it and tell me where it uses the word "democracy" anywhere in the document.
The system derives authority from the people, selects officials through elections, rejects hereditary rule, and limits government through a written constitution. That makes it democratic, republican, and constitutional. Those descriptions are complementary, not contradictory.
Hamilton himself called the proposed government “a representative democracy” during the ratification debates so who to believe? Hamilton or an anonymous internet poster who named himself after a Van Halen record?
I've answered you. Now please explain why we're not a democracy and why you seem to think republic and democracy are opposites.
Posted on 8/2/26 at 1:32 pm to TrueTiger
What’s going to happen when a state’s chosen candidate is different than the one receiving the most popular votes?
Posted on 8/2/26 at 1:42 pm to northshorebamaman
Again, I don't have to explain anything to you. You have your interpretation and I have mine. I never said democracy and a republic are opposites. We have elements of both. Nice use of Google BTW. What does this have to do with the electoral college? The electoral college exists to make sure we never turn into a true democracy. Oh, and why are you fighting with a mental midget like me who uses a Van Halen album title as his handle? I really don't understand what the argument is here besides you being a contrarian.
Posted on 8/2/26 at 1:46 pm to Tchefuncte Tiger
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What’s going to happen when a state’s chosen candidate is different than the one receiving the most popular votes?
Jerrymandering makes this virtually impossible.
Posted on 8/2/26 at 2:20 pm to RFK
Absolutely negative ghost rider.
Need electoral voting at state level, and even county level.
Need electoral voting at state level, and even county level.
Posted on 8/2/26 at 2:20 pm to RFK
The Electoral College is a central tenet of Federalism and States Rights, a national popular vote is just mob rule of the urban centers. Same folks want to nix the Senate for the same reasons.
Definition of Pure Democracy: two wolves and a sheep vote on what is for supper
Definition of Pure Democracy: two wolves and a sheep vote on what is for supper
Posted on 8/2/26 at 2:23 pm to RFK
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Persistent mismatches in which the national popular-vote winner loses the presidency, combined with sustained majority public support for a direct popular election, will eventually encourage elimination of the Electoral College.
It can dissuade all it wants. People can cry about it all they want. They can call this a democracy all they want.
This is a republic, and mobs don't rule.
If they did, we'd have thinned the herd on the snowflakes a generation or so ago.
Be careful what you wish for.
Posted on 8/2/26 at 2:25 pm to RFK
It has zero pros. frick off.
The United States would not exist without the Senate and Electoral College ensuring that the Big States didn't control the Federal Government.
Oh... in case you missed it. frick off.
Amazing that you piece of shite liberals want to save democracy by eliminating the electoral college, the Senate and stacking the Supreme Court. Oh and you evidently love to skip the primary system.
One last time. frick off.
The United States would not exist without the Senate and Electoral College ensuring that the Big States didn't control the Federal Government.
Oh... in case you missed it. frick off.
Amazing that you piece of shite liberals want to save democracy by eliminating the electoral college, the Senate and stacking the Supreme Court. Oh and you evidently love to skip the primary system.
One last time. frick off.
This post was edited on 8/2/26 at 2:27 pm
Posted on 8/2/26 at 2:25 pm to RFK
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Pro:
There are no "Pro's" if you dont live in one of the top 10 largest urban areas in the country. The rest of our votes would be moot.
This is how you get a Mamdani as POTUS. If that happens civil war will break out. Secession will become a thing again.
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