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re: Election stolen in France.

Posted on 7/7/24 at 9:19 pm to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 7/7/24 at 9:19 pm to
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Not at all. Just refuting the notion than the RN losing the election meaning it was “stolen”.


He's talking about the guy melting down on X, not you
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
37266 posts
Posted on 7/7/24 at 9:21 pm to
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Well unlike France which has centralized voting, the US fortunately does not.

Explain. Because the French constituencies vote separately. It’s not a party list.

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It’s a feature and not a bug, but I’m nervous about it in Minnesota, Wisconsin, Michigan, Georgia, Arizona, Colorado, New Mexico, Nevada and Pennsylvania. That’s enough to win Joe or whoever the Democrats nominate the election.

Don’t be. Because none of those states have a two round voting system with three viable voting blocs consisting of multiple parties. Rest assured our election will look nothing like anything that happens in French elections.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 7/7/24 at 9:22 pm to
Makes more sense now. My bad.
Posted by LSUSkip
Central, LA
Member since Jul 2012
24717 posts
Posted on 7/7/24 at 9:23 pm to
Communists do not care how they seize power, they want it and they are going go get it. They also don't care who knows. They know that nobody is going to do anything about it. The WEF and Soros need to be wiped out. Then start moving down the line.
Posted by Athis
I AM Charlie Kirk....
Member since Aug 2016
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Posted on 7/7/24 at 9:24 pm to
Posted by Longhorn Actual
Member since Dec 2023
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Posted on 7/7/24 at 9:25 pm to
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but nowhere else in Europe are there as many immigrants who openly despise their hosts and are hostile to their host's culture as there are in France. The left will only stoke these tensions even further, blaming the native French and not the 3rd worlders being imported daily. There will be widespread armed conflict in France within the next 10 or 15 years.


We give the French shite for being surrender monkeys in WWII, but historically speaking, when Europeans decide they've had enough bullshite, they slaughter people.

The determining factor will be the timing and whether or not they still have the numbers if/when they decide to start the killing.
Posted by thejuiceisloose
Member since Nov 2018
6385 posts
Posted on 7/7/24 at 9:26 pm to
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Communists do not care how they seize power, they want it and they are going go get it. They also don't care who knows. They know that nobody is going to do anything about it. The WEF and Soros need to be wiped out. Then start moving down the line.


Impressive melt
Posted by LSUSkip
Central, LA
Member since Jul 2012
24717 posts
Posted on 7/7/24 at 9:32 pm to
It's not a melt. I don't really care about what happens in Europe. The US has guns, and that will never change, so we'll never be in as bad of shape as is possible in Europe. It was just more of an observation, and it's not a new realization. I've felts this way for awhile.
Posted by Athis
I AM Charlie Kirk....
Member since Aug 2016
16400 posts
Posted on 7/7/24 at 9:38 pm to
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 7/7/24 at 10:18 pm to
Posted by Narax
Member since Jan 2023
7907 posts
Posted on 7/7/24 at 10:21 pm to
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And the Tories governed like a sack of shite bunch of turncoats.

You are not wrong.
Posted by thebigmuffaletta
Member since Aug 2017
15711 posts
Posted on 7/7/24 at 10:31 pm to
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A group of Muslim immigrant women beat a Finnish girl in a shopping center.


This makes our resident liberals giddy
Posted by TejasHorn
High Plains Driftin'
Member since Mar 2007
11614 posts
Posted on 7/7/24 at 11:25 pm to
And will Marie will do her best Karen Lake impression?
Posted by 88Wildcat
Topeka, Ks
Member since Jul 2017
16984 posts
Posted on 7/7/24 at 11:51 pm to
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French politics is nothing like ours.


Two establishment parties coordinate with each other to repel the threat of a populist anti-establishment movement sweeping the country and ousting the establishment from the power it has held forever. Seems like their politics are exactly like ours if we had a third party that actually formed a threat to the two existing parties.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476599 posts
Posted on 7/8/24 at 6:46 am to
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ousting the establishment from the power

How would they do this?

They didn't get a majority.

This is the logical leap that fails this argument.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299182 posts
Posted on 7/8/24 at 6:52 am to
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Communists do not care how they seize power,


Part of me wants to see it.

All these trust fund commies will lose their wealth and find out communism is hard work.

Most commies would fail out of communes.
Posted by Placekicker
Florida
Member since Jan 2016
13736 posts
Posted on 7/8/24 at 6:55 am to
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
37516 posts
Posted on 7/8/24 at 7:00 am to
That's the "beauty" of their system. The first round allows the party in power to get a snapshot of what is needed and gives them time to "tailor" their message and to hammer out governing coalitions.

Macron realized that the most LePen could get was about 35% which meant 65% was up for grabs. So Macron goes to the Socialists, offers them some goodies from his administration and voila!!! LePen and Bardella are abandoned on the steps of the church, again.

No one "stole" anything. Macron played politics and played it very well from a Machiavellian standpoint.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476599 posts
Posted on 7/8/24 at 7:13 am to
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Today is a day that's going to expose a lot of people as idiots who are too far gone with partisan brain rot to understand their idiocy.

Very basic election strategy in Parliamentary politics (which is nothing new and may pre-date the US entirely) is trying to be forced into simplistic boomer memes based on our system (which is apparently the only system these people know).
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39820 posts
Posted on 7/8/24 at 7:16 am to
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No one "stole" anything. Macron played politics and played it very well from a Machiavellian standpoint.



Pretty much.
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