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re: Election stolen in France.

Posted on 7/7/24 at 9:01 pm to
Posted by Indefatigable
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Posted on 7/7/24 at 9:01 pm to
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OK I get it, but what would you say if getting 50% +1 was impossible in a one shot election?

I’d say that the election didn’t produce a candidate with majority support in their constituency.
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should that mean, that the slow part of the population gets a chance to change everything in a second round?

You’re stuck in an American two-party duopoly mindset and if you don’t understand that, there’s no use discussing elections in nations that don’t share our exact electoral framework.

French politics is nothing like ours.
This post was edited on 7/7/24 at 9:03 pm
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 7/7/24 at 9:02 pm to
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OK I get it, but what would you say if getting 50% +1 was impossible in a one shot election? s

Already been said to you

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Plurality governance sucks balls.


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I prefer representative government over plurality-induced gridlock.


Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 7/7/24 at 9:04 pm to
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The crazy thing here, is that other than LePen's stance on immigration, she like her father are basically center left from an American perspective


Yep.

And then there is this;

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"The tide is rising, but it didn't rise quite high enough this time," said Le Pen, who is likely to mount her fourth presidential campaign in 2027. "Our victory has merely been delayed."


Three time loser tells me a change at the top would be beneficial.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 7/7/24 at 9:07 pm to
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Three time loser tells me a change at the top would be beneficial.

It wouldn’t surprise me if Bardella was the candidate come 2027. They’re going to have to do something to win over more of Les Republicains’ base and win over some from Macron’s party to have a chance. Otherwise, they’ll hit the same 30-40% vote ceiling that they have been banging against since 2012
Posted by BCreed1
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Posted on 7/7/24 at 9:11 pm to
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 7/7/24 at 9:12 pm to
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We’re in for dark times, my friend. We can’t discount the Dems being capable of this, although at least we have 51 elections as a security in this.
Posted by thejuiceisloose
Member since Nov 2018
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Posted on 7/7/24 at 9:12 pm to
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Will never convince me otherwise.


Would you be unable to be convinced of the results if your preferred group would have won?
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 7/7/24 at 9:13 pm to
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SlowFlowPro


You’ve really fallen, man.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 7/7/24 at 9:14 pm to
Is that supposed to mean anything?

Add in Ensemble’s votes and then redo the math. RN got less than 40% of the vote in the second round.
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Posted on 7/7/24 at 9:14 pm to
Posted by BCreed1
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Posted on 7/7/24 at 9:14 pm to
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We’re in for dark times, my friend. We can’t discount the Dems being capable of this, although at least we have 51 elections as a security in this.



YEP!

Posted by Crimson Wraith
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Posted on 7/7/24 at 9:15 pm to
Posted by thejuiceisloose
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Posted on 7/7/24 at 9:15 pm to
Sounds like this guy favors a popular vote system. Should we switch to the popular vote in the US? I’m sure “End Wokeness” would be on board for that right?
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 7/7/24 at 9:15 pm to
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being capable of this

Capable of what, exactly?

Forming a coalition with another party to block republicans from winning a two round parliamentary election?

I actually don’t think the Democrats are capable of that, to be honest.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 7/7/24 at 9:16 pm to
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You’ve really fallen, man.

By educating people on how Parliamentary systems work?
Posted by Sam Quint
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Posted on 7/7/24 at 9:16 pm to
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You’ve really fallen, man

The thing he hates more than anything is the thought that the conservatives on this board might be right about literally one single thing that they're (we're) pissed about.
This post was edited on 7/7/24 at 9:17 pm
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 7/7/24 at 9:17 pm to
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Sounds like this guy favors a popular vote system. Should we switch to the popular vote in the US? I’m sure “End Wokeness” would be on board for that right?


Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
37266 posts
Posted on 7/7/24 at 9:17 pm to
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Sounds like this guy favors a popular vote system.

Not at all. Just refuting the notion than the RN losing the election meaning it was “stolen”.

The actual result isn’t anywhere near that interesting.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476599 posts
Posted on 7/7/24 at 9:18 pm to
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The thing he hates more than anything is the thought that the conservatives on this board might be right about literally one single thing that they're (we're) pissed about.

What a very odd thread for this melt
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
120445 posts
Posted on 7/7/24 at 9:19 pm to
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Forming a coalition with another party to block republicans from winning a two round parliamentary election?

I actually don’t think the Democrats are capable of that, to be honest.


Well unlike France which has centralized voting, the US fortunately does not. It’s a feature and not a bug, but I’m nervous about it in Minnesota, Wisconsin, Michigan, Georgia, Arizona, Colorado, New Mexico, Nevada and Pennsylvania. That’s enough to win Joe or whoever the Democrats nominate the election.
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