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re: Does the Holy Land belong to The Church?
Posted on 11/5/23 at 7:21 am to Revelator
Posted on 11/5/23 at 7:21 am to Revelator
"To you it has been given to know the things of the kingdom of God, but to them has it not been given"
Jesus Christ in reference to the multitudes 'following' Him when talking to his disciples
Jesus Christ in reference to the multitudes 'following' Him when talking to his disciples
This post was edited on 11/5/23 at 7:22 am
Posted on 11/5/23 at 7:23 am to Joesheisty24
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You need serious help
Solid argument backed up by evidence. You must have an IQ of 160.
Posted on 11/5/23 at 7:26 am to Squirrelmeister
On the verbal side, my IQ is way higher than that. On the physical puzzle solving side, my IQ is just above retard level lol.. as of the sixth grade test I took upon request from my teacher
This post was edited on 11/5/23 at 7:28 am
Posted on 11/5/23 at 9:03 am to SkiUtah420
Romans11:26
And in this way all Israel will be saved, as it is written,
“The Deliverer will come from Zion,
he will banish ungodliness from Jacob”;
27 “and this will be my covenant with them
when I take away their sins.”
28 ¶ As regards the gospel, they are enemies for your sake. But as regards election, they are beloved for the sake of their forefathers.
29 For the gifts and the calling of God are irrevocable.
30 For just as you were at one time disobedient to God but now have received mercy because of their disobedience,
31 so they too have now been disobedient in order that by the mercy shown to you they also may now receive mercy
And in this way all Israel will be saved, as it is written,
“The Deliverer will come from Zion,
he will banish ungodliness from Jacob”;
27 “and this will be my covenant with them
when I take away their sins.”
28 ¶ As regards the gospel, they are enemies for your sake. But as regards election, they are beloved for the sake of their forefathers.
29 For the gifts and the calling of God are irrevocable.
30 For just as you were at one time disobedient to God but now have received mercy because of their disobedience,
31 so they too have now been disobedient in order that by the mercy shown to you they also may now receive mercy
This post was edited on 11/5/23 at 9:04 am
Posted on 11/5/23 at 9:07 am to Revelator
And they do Receive that mercy, through Christ... ?? So what are we talking about
This post was edited on 11/5/23 at 9:08 am
Posted on 11/5/23 at 9:08 am to SkiUtah420
that is a totally retarded claim. the bible clearly says that Armageddon is God's judgement on the world for taking land from Israel. That clearly proves it doesn't belong to the Church.
Furthermore, Israel has not yet fulfilled their calling and until they fulfill their calling they are entitled to the land that goes with it.
Furthermore, Israel has not yet fulfilled their calling and until they fulfill their calling they are entitled to the land that goes with it.
quote:anyone who refers to him as saint is obviously completely clueless.
St Paul
Posted on 11/5/23 at 9:13 am to faraway
I come to TD.com Poli board to learn about God and Church
Posted on 11/5/23 at 9:22 am to faraway
quote:
St Paul anyone who refers to him as saint is obviously completely clueless.
All believers are called saints in the Bible
Posted on 11/5/23 at 9:30 am to faraway
quote:
that is a totally retarded claim. the bible clearly says that Armageddon is God's judgement on the world for taking land from Israel. That clearly proves it doesn't belong to the Church.
Furthermore, Israel has not yet fulfilled their calling and until they fulfill their calling they are entitled to the land that goes with it.
There are way too many of you fundie wackos.
Posted on 11/5/23 at 9:33 am to Gideon Swashbuckler
Hey bud, at least we Orthodox fought the Muslims for 600 years before Roman Catholic crusaders sacked Constantinople so as to enrich the Doge of Venice.
Posted on 11/5/23 at 10:05 am to MadQfrog
This debate is really outside my knowledge base, but I would like to offer this one addition: the Ashkenazi are not the Jews of the Bible. They are descendants of the Khazars, a Turkic people who maintained the Khazarian Empire circa 700-1000 AD. They adopted Judaism as the state religion in about 800. Arthur Koestler wrote a book about it called The 13th Tribe. This is why they don’t look like the Sephardic Jews, who I would speculate are the true descendants of the ancient Jews. They look Caucasian because they are, in fact, Caucasian. They aren’t a Semitic race, and their ancestors never lived in Palestine.
I don’t say that as an attack on them, though I have many disagreements with the way they pursue their interests.
I don’t say that as an attack on them, though I have many disagreements with the way they pursue their interests.
Posted on 11/5/23 at 10:09 am to Mo Jeaux
You provide the best entertainment for responces.

Posted on 11/5/23 at 10:11 am to SquaringCircles
Ashkenazi Jews are European Jews who intermarried primarily with Eastern European types.....and yes some of them with Ottoman Turks who very much liked the Jews for upper level bureaucrats.
Ben Gurion for example was educated in Constantinople. Up until Erdogan, the Turks and Israel got along quite well.
Ben Gurion for example was educated in Constantinople. Up until Erdogan, the Turks and Israel got along quite well.
Posted on 11/5/23 at 10:17 am to SkiUtah420
The nation of Israel is a secular state, not to be confused with the historic people of Israel. Just because they go by the name and occupy the land doesn’t make them the covenant people of Israel.
Posted on 11/5/23 at 10:24 am to rebeloke
The sad part is even if we offered a piece of Alaska to them after ww2 as refugee, the zionists would still turn it down.
Posted on 11/5/23 at 10:38 am to rebeloke
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The nation of Israel is a secular state, not to be confused with the historic people of Israel. Just because they go by the name and occupy the land doesn’t make them the covenant people of Israel.
So what’s your test to determine true jews from fake ones
This post was edited on 11/5/23 at 10:39 am
Posted on 11/5/23 at 10:39 am to Revelator
Circumcision.....and how they make Matzo Ball soup.
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