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re: Does the Holy Land belong to The Church?

Posted on 11/5/23 at 7:21 am to
Posted by Joesheisty24
Member since Oct 2023
75 posts
Posted on 11/5/23 at 7:21 am to
"To you it has been given to know the things of the kingdom of God, but to them has it not been given"

Jesus Christ in reference to the multitudes 'following' Him when talking to his disciples
This post was edited on 11/5/23 at 7:22 am
Posted by Squirrelmeister
Member since Nov 2021
3397 posts
Posted on 11/5/23 at 7:23 am to
quote:

You need serious help


Solid argument backed up by evidence. You must have an IQ of 160.
Posted by Joesheisty24
Member since Oct 2023
75 posts
Posted on 11/5/23 at 7:26 am to
On the verbal side, my IQ is way higher than that. On the physical puzzle solving side, my IQ is just above retard level lol.. as of the sixth grade test I took upon request from my teacher
This post was edited on 11/5/23 at 7:28 am
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
62014 posts
Posted on 11/5/23 at 9:03 am to
Romans11:26
And in this way all Israel will be saved, as it is written,
“The Deliverer will come from Zion,
he will banish ungodliness from Jacob”;
27 “and this will be my covenant with them
when I take away their sins.”
28 ¶ As regards the gospel, they are enemies for your sake. But as regards election, they are beloved for the sake of their forefathers.
29 For the gifts and the calling of God are irrevocable.
30 For just as you were at one time disobedient to God but now have received mercy because of their disobedience,
31 so they too have now been disobedient in order that by the mercy shown to you they also may now receive mercy
This post was edited on 11/5/23 at 9:04 am
Posted by Joesheisty24
Member since Oct 2023
75 posts
Posted on 11/5/23 at 9:07 am to
And they do Receive that mercy, through Christ... ?? So what are we talking about
This post was edited on 11/5/23 at 9:08 am
Posted by faraway
Member since Nov 2022
3572 posts
Posted on 11/5/23 at 9:08 am to
that is a totally retarded claim. the bible clearly says that Armageddon is God's judgement on the world for taking land from Israel. That clearly proves it doesn't belong to the Church.

Furthermore, Israel has not yet fulfilled their calling and until they fulfill their calling they are entitled to the land that goes with it.

quote:

St Paul
anyone who refers to him as saint is obviously completely clueless.
Posted by Bayou
Boudin, LA
Member since Feb 2005
41654 posts
Posted on 11/5/23 at 9:13 am to
I come to TD.com Poli board to learn about God and Church
Posted by Joesheisty24
Member since Oct 2023
75 posts
Posted on 11/5/23 at 9:16 am to
I feel sorry for you
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
62014 posts
Posted on 11/5/23 at 9:22 am to
quote:

St Paul anyone who refers to him as saint is obviously completely clueless.



All believers are called saints in the Bible
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
62490 posts
Posted on 11/5/23 at 9:30 am to
quote:

that is a totally retarded claim. the bible clearly says that Armageddon is God's judgement on the world for taking land from Israel. That clearly proves it doesn't belong to the Church.

Furthermore, Israel has not yet fulfilled their calling and until they fulfill their calling they are entitled to the land that goes with it.


There are way too many of you fundie wackos.
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
36019 posts
Posted on 11/5/23 at 9:33 am to
Hey bud, at least we Orthodox fought the Muslims for 600 years before Roman Catholic crusaders sacked Constantinople so as to enrich the Doge of Venice.
Posted by SquaringCircles
Member since Sep 2021
1509 posts
Posted on 11/5/23 at 10:05 am to
This debate is really outside my knowledge base, but I would like to offer this one addition: the Ashkenazi are not the Jews of the Bible. They are descendants of the Khazars, a Turkic people who maintained the Khazarian Empire circa 700-1000 AD. They adopted Judaism as the state religion in about 800. Arthur Koestler wrote a book about it called The 13th Tribe. This is why they don’t look like the Sephardic Jews, who I would speculate are the true descendants of the ancient Jews. They look Caucasian because they are, in fact, Caucasian. They aren’t a Semitic race, and their ancestors never lived in Palestine.

I don’t say that as an attack on them, though I have many disagreements with the way they pursue their interests.
Posted by bluedragon
Birmingham
Member since May 2020
9035 posts
Posted on 11/5/23 at 10:09 am to
You provide the best entertainment for responces.

Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
36019 posts
Posted on 11/5/23 at 10:11 am to
Ashkenazi Jews are European Jews who intermarried primarily with Eastern European types.....and yes some of them with Ottoman Turks who very much liked the Jews for upper level bureaucrats.

Ben Gurion for example was educated in Constantinople. Up until Erdogan, the Turks and Israel got along quite well.
Posted by rebeloke
Member since Nov 2012
17055 posts
Posted on 11/5/23 at 10:17 am to
The nation of Israel is a secular state, not to be confused with the historic people of Israel. Just because they go by the name and occupy the land doesn’t make them the covenant people of Israel.
Posted by RollTide4Ever
Nashville
Member since Nov 2006
19654 posts
Posted on 11/5/23 at 10:21 am to
Hertzle was atheist.
Posted by RollTide4Ever
Nashville
Member since Nov 2006
19654 posts
Posted on 11/5/23 at 10:24 am to
The sad part is even if we offered a piece of Alaska to them after ww2 as refugee, the zionists would still turn it down.
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
62014 posts
Posted on 11/5/23 at 10:38 am to
quote:

The nation of Israel is a secular state, not to be confused with the historic people of Israel. Just because they go by the name and occupy the land doesn’t make them the covenant people of Israel.


So what’s your test to determine true jews from fake ones
This post was edited on 11/5/23 at 10:39 am
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
36019 posts
Posted on 11/5/23 at 10:39 am to
Circumcision.....and how they make Matzo Ball soup.
Posted by Kapitan
Belle Chasse
Member since Mar 2021
179 posts
Posted on 11/5/23 at 11:18 am to
frick you
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