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re: Does everyone know McCain crashed 5 military aircraft?

Posted on 8/29/18 at 2:17 pm to
Posted by foshizzle
Washington DC metro
Member since Mar 2008
40599 posts
Posted on 8/29/18 at 2:17 pm to
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Nepotism to the point that an unfit pilot is crashing planes left and right and not being held accountable because his daddy.



Let's assume all this is true exactly the way OP reported it.

What point are you trying to make here? That nepotism is bad? I can agree with that.

Are you saying Senator McCain wasn't that great a pilot? If so, I have no independent source so I neither agree nor disagree.

Are you saying he was a hard partier at that time in his life? Okay ... so what? I'll add that the Orange One was too at a similar age and I don't care about that either.

Exactly what point are you trying to make about the past of a dead 81 year old that has any relevance today?
Posted by fromthesouth21
Member since Aug 2018
167 posts
Posted on 8/29/18 at 2:17 pm to
Trump crashes businesses like McCain crashes planes... man I should get paid for this debate with you dweebs.
Posted by Stingray
Shreveport
Member since Sep 2007
12421 posts
Posted on 8/29/18 at 2:21 pm to
Did he experience a powerful feeling of faith in his flying after each crash?
Posted by RobbBobb
Matt Flynn, BCS MVP
Member since Feb 2007
27958 posts
Posted on 8/29/18 at 2:21 pm to
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Well, the rocket hit McCain's plane, so probably not McCain.

Too bad flight deck video doesn't back that claim up. Nor the official report
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The official Navy investigation identified the Skyhawk struck by the Zuni as aircraft No. 405, piloted by Lieutenant Commander Fred D. White.

LINK

After about 90 sec, did you notice an explosion? Yeah, that was McCains bomb exploding after he panicked and released it on deck. Then ran for cover. Wanna know my source? The US Navy.
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The official report states that one Korean War-era 1000-lb AN-M65 bomb fell from a A-4 Skyhawk to the deck

Posted by ninthward
Boston, MA
Member since May 2007
20439 posts
Posted on 8/29/18 at 2:21 pm to
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Trump crashes businesses like McCain crashes planes... man I should get paid for this debate with you dweebs.
Trump also was elected president, unlike McCain.
Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
99236 posts
Posted on 8/29/18 at 2:22 pm to
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Well, the rocket hit McCain's plane, so probably not McCain.


The rocket was doing it's job, seeking out the enemy. It just missed.
Posted by ninthward
Boston, MA
Member since May 2007
20439 posts
Posted on 8/29/18 at 2:23 pm to
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After about 90 sec, did you notice an explosion? Yeah, that was McCains bomb exploding after he panicked and released it on deck. Then ran for cover. Wanna know my source? The US Navy.
I was just watching the on-deck footage, and those hose teams were walking up to the fire without knowing there were 2x1000lbs bombs sitting on the deck in the fire.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
140686 posts
Posted on 8/29/18 at 2:23 pm to
If you got a dollar for every whataboutism you'd be on to something.
Posted by fromthesouth21
Member since Aug 2018
167 posts
Posted on 8/29/18 at 2:23 pm to
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Trump also was elected president, unlike McCain.


And if not for the turbulence of this flight would this be enough to seperate the two.
Posted by ninthward
Boston, MA
Member since May 2007
20439 posts
Posted on 8/29/18 at 2:25 pm to
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Are you saying Senator McCain wasn't that great a pilot? If so, I have no independent source so I neither agree nor disagree.
Well for context my great uncle was an Army Air Corps pilot during WW2 and he flew many different aircraft. Want to know how many he folded up? Try 0.
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
78253 posts
Posted on 8/29/18 at 2:25 pm to
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He did not lose the aircraft but you claim he did.
link?

Posted by ninthward
Boston, MA
Member since May 2007
20439 posts
Posted on 8/29/18 at 2:28 pm to
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And if not for the turbulence of this flight would this be enough to seperate the two.
Actually, no. Only in your mind, these two correlate as an equal. So I'll raise you one, Trump was never captured.
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
33558 posts
Posted on 8/29/18 at 2:31 pm to
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Any other aviator would have been bounced out after the first crash.
And I guess then avoided the luxury of 5 years as a POW with the North Vietnamese.
Posted by fromthesouth21
Member since Aug 2018
167 posts
Posted on 8/29/18 at 2:32 pm to
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Actually, no. Only in your mind, these two correlate as an equal. So I'll raise you one, Trump was never captured.


If anymore of his so-called "allies" get the call from Mueller and flip, you can bet your bottom dollar he will in fact be captured.
Posted by el Gaucho
He/They
Member since Dec 2010
53096 posts
Posted on 8/29/18 at 2:32 pm to
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I'm saying he's a fatty

It’s not fat it’s muscle
Posted by Mid Iowa Tiger
Undisclosed Secure Location
Member since Feb 2008
18713 posts
Posted on 8/29/18 at 2:33 pm to
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And I guess then avoided the luxury of 5 years as a POW with the North Vietnamese.



How do we know he didn't crash again in North Vietnam?
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 8/29/18 at 2:34 pm to
5 planes makes him an ace for the other guys?

I know somebody said that already, on my phone
Posted by fromthesouth21
Member since Aug 2018
167 posts
Posted on 8/29/18 at 2:45 pm to
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How do we know he didn't crash again in North Vietnam?


You can count that one too and just like when Trump crashed the USFL!
Posted by Hickok
Htown
Member since Jan 2013
2873 posts
Posted on 8/29/18 at 2:46 pm to
read what I was replying to, it should clear it up for you, if not I will check back in when I get a computer and walk you through it. Hard to do all the back and forth quoting on a phone.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
124158 posts
Posted on 8/29/18 at 2:50 pm to
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My understanding what happened from a survivor of the incident, that McCain was essentially doing a fighter jet equivalent of a burnout.
Right. That's certainly one of the rumors. Official reports and footage don't really support the contention though.
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