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re: Does everyone know McCain crashed 5 military aircraft?

Posted on 8/29/18 at 1:24 pm to
Posted by teke184
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Posted on 8/29/18 at 1:24 pm to
Pretty sure that wasn’t McCain, as the diagram of the ship showed him much closer to the end of the flight deck where the missile hit.

The missile fired due to an electrical short connected to a workaround done to the planes. Specifically, a safeguard was bypassed due to pilots complaining that the missiles wouldn’t fire under certain circumstances in combat IIRC.
Posted by CAD703X
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Posted on 8/29/18 at 1:24 pm to
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Well, the rocket hit McCain's plane, so probably not McCain.


where were you standing when you observed this?
Posted by 56lsu
jackson mich
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Posted on 8/29/18 at 1:25 pm to
that's to hard for the trumpkins they would rather believe the b/s put out by the alex jones types.
This post was edited on 8/29/18 at 1:28 pm
Posted by sicboy
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Posted on 8/29/18 at 1:27 pm to
Your blind trump fanaticism is something to watch.
Posted by Hickok
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Posted on 8/29/18 at 1:29 pm to
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Well, the rocket hit McCain's plane, so probably not McCain.

What set the rocket off? Was it the fact McCain was screwing around and did a wet start of his engine to scare his friend? Could wet starting the engine cause enough of a bang to set off a missle or scare another pilot? And is wet starting an engine protocol for pilots?
Posted by foshizzle
Washington DC metro
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 8/29/18 at 1:30 pm to
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so he didn't crash his plane into those power lines?


He did not lose the aircraft but you claim he did. Why?

This was about the airplane, not the power lines.
Posted by sicboy
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Posted on 8/29/18 at 1:31 pm to
you can go through all of the sources cited

quote:

Fire

While preparing for the second sortie of the day, the aft portion of the flight deck was packed wing-to-wing with 12 A-4E Skyhawk, seven F-4B Phantom II, and two Vigilante aircraft. A total of 27 aircraft were on deck, fully loaded with bombs, rockets, ammunition, and fuel. Several tons of bombs were stored on wooden pallets on deck in the bomb farm.[15] A McDonnell Douglas F-4B Phantom (No. 110, BuNo 153061), flown by LCDR James E. Bangert and LT(JG) Lawrence E. McKay from VF-11,[1] was positioned on the aft starboard corner of the deck, pointing about 45 degrees across the ship.[1] It was armed with LAU-10 underwing rocket pods, each containing four unguided 5.0 in (127.0 mm) Mk-32 "Zuni" rockets. The Zuni was protected from launching by a safety pin that was only to be removed prior to launch from the catapult.[10][6]:57

Zuni rocket launched

At about 10:51 (local time) on 29 July, an electrical power surge in the Phantom occurred during the switch from external to internal power. The electrical surge caused one of the four 5-inch Mk-32 Zuni unguided rockets in a pod on external stores station 2 (port inboard station) to fire.[12] The rocket was later determined to be missing the rocket safety pin, allowing the rocket to launch.[10] The rocket flew about 100 feet (30 m) across the flight deck, likely severing the arm of a crewman, and ruptured a 400 US gallons (1,500 l; 330 imp gal) wing-mounted external fuel tank on a Skyhawk from VA-46 awaiting launch.[1][16][6]:34, 93



I'm sure someone will claim that McCain pulled the safety pin.
This post was edited on 8/29/18 at 1:33 pm
Posted by LSU82BILL
Fort Lauderdale, FL
Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 8/29/18 at 1:31 pm to
Damn. That’s a lot of money. Not as much as Trump wants to spend on a military parade but still.
Posted by asurob1
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Posted on 8/29/18 at 1:31 pm to
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McCain Lost Five Military Aircraft


McCain melt.

Day 7

Tigerdroppings held hostage
Posted by sicboy
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Posted on 8/29/18 at 1:31 pm to
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wet start


does this cause electrical power surges?
Posted by foshizzle
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Posted on 8/29/18 at 1:32 pm to
BTW, what is your source? You didn't link one.

And if
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when a rocket inadvertently slammed into his bomb laden jet


Supposing it really was his plane, how is that supposed to be his fault?
Posted by sicboy
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Posted on 8/29/18 at 1:33 pm to
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BTW, what is your source? You didn't link one.



Probably one of the 300 right wing conspiracy blogs he follows.


But I saw all of that info in a few other article, just not with the commentary on McCain plugged in.
Posted by Hickok
Htown
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Posted on 8/29/18 at 1:34 pm to
Can an explosion cause a shortage, I'd say most probably. The question is did McCain follow protocol, and if not did he get a pass because of his father?
Posted by sicboy
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Posted on 8/29/18 at 1:35 pm to
I'm not claiming he isn't responsible for any of the other incidents listed, especially the ones where was the pilot, but it sounds as if the fire is solely the fault of the power surge and whoever pulled the safety pin.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 8/29/18 at 1:36 pm to
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held hostage


Does your wife's bull tie up you first to be extra sick?
This post was edited on 8/29/18 at 1:41 pm
Posted by texag7
College Station
Member since Apr 2014
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Posted on 8/29/18 at 1:37 pm to
From what I've read he was a shite pilot in all aspects
Posted by gamatt53
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 8/29/18 at 1:38 pm to
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McCain Lost Five Military Aircraft


How many pairs of corrective footwear did trump wear out back home while all of that happened? I know bone spur rehab is super serious and intensive
Posted by keakar
Member since Jan 2017
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Posted on 8/29/18 at 1:38 pm to
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McCain and the Forrestal depends who you ask.

McCain claimed, and his father made damn sure the navy accepted this claim as the official record, that his fighter got hit by a rocket and dropped the bombs on the deck.

direct eye witnesses to the incident claim, and the video did not support that argument, and that the bombs dropped because he had a hissy fit waiting in line to take off and got out of his plane, accidentally dropping his payload in the process and setting off the fuel spilled by the misfired rocket.


there, i know you reported it correctly as far as public record goes but i fixed it for truthful accuracy
Posted by asurob1
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Posted on 8/29/18 at 1:38 pm to
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Does your wife's bull tie you first to be extra sick?


Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
140686 posts
Posted on 8/29/18 at 1:40 pm to
How long do the rope burns last?
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