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Does everyone know McCain crashed 5 military aircraft?
Posted on 8/29/18 at 12:58 pm
Posted on 8/29/18 at 12:58 pm
McCain Lost Five Military Aircraft
Damn it feels good to have a 4-star admiral as father.
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McCain, the "below par" pilot, eventually lost 5 military aircraft, the first during a training flight in 1958 when he plunged into Corpus Christi Bay while trying to land. The Navy ignored the crash and graduated McCain in 1960.
While deployed in the Mediterranean, the hard partying McCain lost a second aircraft. Timberg described the crash: "Flying too low over the Iberian Peninsula, he took out some power lines which led to a spate of newspaper stories in which he was predictably identified as the son of an admiral."
Unscathed, McCain returned to Pensacola Station where he was promoted to flight instructor for Naval Air Station Meridian in Mississippi. The airfield at Meridian, McCain Field, was named in honor of McCain's grandfather.
In 1964 McCain became involved with Carol Shepp, a model from Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, he had met at Annapolis. They were married in Philadelphia on July 3, 1965.
Flight instructor McCain lost a third aircraft while flying a Navy trainer solo to Philadelphia for an Army-Navy football game. Timberg wrote that McCain radioed, "I've got a flameout" before ejecting at one thousand feet. McCain parachuted onto a beach moments before his plane slammed into a clump of trees.
The Navy dismissed the crash as "unavoidable" and assigned McCain to the aircraft carrier USS Forrestal in December 1966, which was patrolling the Mediterranean Sea and Atlantic Ocean. In Spring 1967, the Forrestal was assigned to join the Operation Rolling Thunder bombing campaign against North Vietnam.
McCain lost his fourth plane on board the Forrestal on July 29, 1967 when a rocket inadvertently slammed into his bomb laden jet. McCain escaped, but the explosions that followed killed 134 sailors. McCain was transferred from the badly damaged Forrestal to the USS Oriskany. Shortly afterwards, on Oct. 26, 1967, he was shot down and captured by the Vietnamese.
Damn it feels good to have a 4-star admiral as father.
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Posted on 8/29/18 at 1:01 pm to CAD703X
How many planes were destroyed in the ship accident?
Posted on 8/29/18 at 1:02 pm to BestBanker
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How many planes were destroyed in the ship accident?
a frickton
Posted on 8/29/18 at 1:03 pm to CAD703X
He crashed the uss forrestal too causing the deaths of 170 American servicemen
Posted on 8/29/18 at 1:03 pm to CAD703X
He sounds like Admiral Benson in Hot Shots.
"You know, I've personally flown over 194 missions and I was shot down on every one. Come to think of it, I've never landed a plane in my life."
"You know, I've personally flown over 194 missions and I was shot down on every one. Come to think of it, I've never landed a plane in my life."
Posted on 8/29/18 at 1:03 pm to CAD703X
Posted on 8/29/18 at 1:04 pm to BestBanker
Not sure how many planes but we lost at least 134 servicemen.
Posted on 8/29/18 at 1:08 pm to BestBanker
quote:Many, and rumors to the contrary, McCain apparently had nothing to do with the Forrestal disaster. He also did not "lose" his plane in Spain. But a significant swath of Spain lost electricity as a result of McCain's antics. It was a major international incident.
How many planes were destroyed in the ship accident?
Posted on 8/29/18 at 1:11 pm to NC_Tigah
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He also did not "lose" his plane in Spain. But a significant swath of Spain lost electricity as a result of McCain's antics
so he didn't crash his plane into those power lines?
how do you define 'crash'?
pretty sure if i run into the car in front of me the police will file the report as a car crash.
I guess if the wires had ripped a wing or the tail off then this would be a 'proper' crash?
This post was edited on 8/29/18 at 1:14 pm
Posted on 8/29/18 at 1:14 pm to NC_Tigah
McCain and the Forrestal depends who you ask.
McCain and the navy claim his fighter got hit by a rocket and dropped the bombs on the deck.
Others claim video did not support that argument and that the bombs dropped because he had a hissy fit waiting in line to take off and got out of his plane, accidentally dropping his payload in the process and setting off the fuel spilled by the misfired rocket.
McCain and the navy claim his fighter got hit by a rocket and dropped the bombs on the deck.
Others claim video did not support that argument and that the bombs dropped because he had a hissy fit waiting in line to take off and got out of his plane, accidentally dropping his payload in the process and setting off the fuel spilled by the misfired rocket.
Posted on 8/29/18 at 1:14 pm to CAD703X
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pretty sure if i run into the car in front of me the police will file the report as a car crash.
Unless your dad is the chief of police. Then you'd get a new car, promotion, and be hailed as a hero.
Posted on 8/29/18 at 1:15 pm to Hickok
Being a rich bootlegger who can afford to bribe the right people works, too.
JFK should have been courtmartialed for losing his PT boat but came out of it a hero.
JFK should have been courtmartialed for losing his PT boat but came out of it a hero.
Posted on 8/29/18 at 1:16 pm to CAD703X
I knew about it because one of my golf partners was in the same flight training class with McCain. He said everyone knew he would pass regardless of his ineptness. Because of who his dad was.
My partner later became a flight instructor and was pressured to upgrade pilots to craft they could not handle. The order was 'Coach them up.' His response: 'You can't teach reaction speed'.
Whenever someone was moved up based on something other than merit, there was catastrophe.
My partner later became a flight instructor and was pressured to upgrade pilots to craft they could not handle. The order was 'Coach them up.' His response: 'You can't teach reaction speed'.
Whenever someone was moved up based on something other than merit, there was catastrophe.
Posted on 8/29/18 at 1:16 pm to el Gaucho
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He crashed the uss forrestal too causing the deaths of 170 American servicemen
A simple google search debunks that.
Posted on 8/29/18 at 1:18 pm to RobNation
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A simple google search debunks that.
google = truth
people like zach = fringe liars who make up stuff. google has the correct answers for all things.
This post was edited on 8/29/18 at 1:19 pm
Posted on 8/29/18 at 1:18 pm to RobNation
LINK
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Several of the planes started their engines in preparation for launching. Without warning, a rocket was accidentally fired from an F-4 Phantom jet fighter. The rocket struck and ripped open an A-4 Skyhawk on the other side of the flight deck. The rocket passed through the aircraft without exploding and hit the ocean. However, several hundred gallons of jet fuel poured from the Skyhawk’s punctured fuel tank and was ignited by burning rocket fuel left on the flight deck. Burning fuel was spread by the heavy winds across the flight deck and covered several more planes. Within seconds, these aircraft began burning, and the fire continued to spread. The ship immediately sounded general quarters (sending the crew to their battle stations), and an announcement notified the crew of the fire on the flight deck. The heat of the fire exploded a bomb on the flight deck approximately 90 seconds after the fire began, and a second bomb exploded a few seconds later. These explosions severely damaged the carrier and killed several Sailors on the flight deck. The fuel tanks of other planes ruptured, adding to the intensity of the blaze. The exploding bombs also created several holes in the flight deck, spilling burning jet fuel into the ship and allowing fire and smoke to spread inside the ship.
Forrestal’s crew battled and eventually extinguished the fire, with assistance from other Navy ships in the area. It took more than 24 hours to extinguish the fires below the flight deck. The losses caused by this incident were high and included 134 Sailors killed by the fire, and 161 injured. More than 20 aircraft were destroyed. The damage forced Forrestal to suspend combat operations and conduct temporary repairs in the Philippines before returning to the U.S. for permanent repair. Repairs to the ship cost approximately $72 million (equal to more than $528 million in 2017 dollars), and took approximately two years to complete.
Posted on 8/29/18 at 1:19 pm to CAD703X
I have a relative that actually spent nearly 8 years in the Hanoi Hilton and he hates McCain. Says that the only reason he graduated the Naval Academy was because of his father and that he buddied up with the Vietnamese that were running the prison camp, not to mention he hated his politics. I'll have to get his opinion on all of this coverage McCain is getting.
Posted on 8/29/18 at 1:19 pm to sicboy
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Without warning, a rocket was accidentally fired from an F-4 Phantom jet fighter.
interesting.
pilot of said plane not mentioned?
Posted on 8/29/18 at 1:21 pm to RobNation
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A simple google search debunks that.
Posted on 8/29/18 at 1:22 pm to CAD703X
Well, the rocket hit McCain's plane, so probably not McCain.
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