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re: Do you think it is fair that Chinese automakers can use Mexico to ship cars tax free?
Posted on 3/19/24 at 12:05 pm to GumboPot
Posted on 3/19/24 at 12:05 pm to GumboPot
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Trump is just setting the negotiating framework.
Except that he placed tariffs on countries and then didn't remove them before leaving office.
I voted trump. I'd vote for him again.
But to act like he never made a mistake (because framing tariffs solely as a bargaining chip is an outright lie) is flat out wrong.
This post was edited on 3/19/24 at 12:06 pm
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Posted on 3/19/24 at 12:06 pm to GumboPot
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One thing about Trump that he is consistent about is making good deals
Are they good because he says they're good, or are they good because they produce tangible results?
I'm asking as someone who doesn't study retaliatory tariffs and their affect on our trade.
This post was edited on 3/19/24 at 12:07 pm
Posted on 3/19/24 at 12:07 pm to GumboPot
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What is happening here is Trump is the first politician in a long time (probably in most people's lives including mine) that we have heard using tariffs as a tool to execute trade agreements.
Were you born in 2016? This is crazy talk.
Posted on 3/19/24 at 12:09 pm to Bass Tiger
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Do you believe US corporations such as Apple, Microsoft, Tesla, etc. should be considered modern day Rosenbergs for providing the CCP with advanced industrial and manufacturing technologies?
What about the D.C. Uniparty and universities who allowed this technology transfer to China over the past 35 years.
Free trade baw.
If a company wants to share their own property, why would a government interfere?
What legal right does the government have to step in?
Now there are laws that need to be added on the books to protect individual privacy from foreign national interests.
Google can share technology. But not individuals data. Even with all of the loopholes in unilateral privacy policies, that should be outlawed and severely punished.
Just like Bank of America should have never cooperated with the FBI with nonpublic personal data surrounding January 6th without warrants.
Laws need to be on the books and given teeth for these real breeches against the public good.
But a company's own property? Why can't they do with it what they want?
Posted on 3/19/24 at 12:15 pm to YouKnowImRight
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I'm asking as someone who doesn't study retaliatory tariffs and their affect on our trade.
Here's one example.
https://money.cnn.com/2017/01/03/news/economy/obama-china-tire-tariff/index.html
Posted on 3/19/24 at 12:37 pm to momentoftruth87
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I’d be fine with cutting off china completely but we never will.
And if we did, capital would just move to another country that is capable of making stuff cheaper. You are starting to see that with India and Vietnam.
Posted on 3/19/24 at 2:11 pm to Ten Bears
The problem with the argument free traders like roger bring is they ignore the fact that there is essentially no free trade in the world.
While we import stuff without levying tariffs the country sending us their shite do not do the same.
Price out a Corvette in Germany or a Buick Enclave in China and get back to me.
It has to be a two way street otherwise you simply destroy your own manufacturing base while strengthening that of others. See China as example number one.
It's a globalist position.
Allowing tariff free imports turbocharged the growth of the welfare class.
Who vote democrat btw.
While we import stuff without levying tariffs the country sending us their shite do not do the same.
Price out a Corvette in Germany or a Buick Enclave in China and get back to me.
It has to be a two way street otherwise you simply destroy your own manufacturing base while strengthening that of others. See China as example number one.
It's a globalist position.
Allowing tariff free imports turbocharged the growth of the welfare class.
Who vote democrat btw.
This post was edited on 3/19/24 at 2:28 pm
Posted on 3/19/24 at 3:35 pm to YouKnowImRight
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Same principle applies. Our elected officials buy votes with taxes they collect from the minority.
Which minority is being taxed for such purpose?
Posted on 3/19/24 at 4:50 pm to Timeoday
China isn't using Mexico to ship cars. They will assemble cars in Mexico using NAFTA rules to qualify for reduced or duty free tariffs. Other foreign auto manufacturers including VW assemble cars in Mexico that are sold in North American market.
Why shouldn't China be unable to play by the same rules as VW and others?
It will be blood bath after China imposes tariffs and other restrictions on rare earth products. Trump was playing politics with auto workers for their votes.
Why shouldn't China be unable to play by the same rules as VW and others?
It will be blood bath after China imposes tariffs and other restrictions on rare earth products. Trump was playing politics with auto workers for their votes.
Posted on 3/19/24 at 6:00 pm to Timeoday
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o China is building massive auto plants in Mexico to flood the US with cars tax free.
Chinese car built in Mexico? Will people even be able to drive it off the lot with all the missing pieces?
Posted on 3/19/24 at 6:08 pm to BuckyCheese
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The problem with the argument free traders like roger bring is they ignore the fact that there is essentially no free trade in the world.
While we import stuff without levying tariffs the country sending us their shite do not do the same.
Price out a Corvette in Germany or a Buick Enclave in China and get back to me.
It has to be a two way street otherwise you simply destroy your own manufacturing base while strengthening that of others. See China as example number one.
It's a globalist position.
Allowing tariff free imports turbocharged the growth of the welfare class.
Who vote democrat btw.
You are exactly right!!
Posted on 3/19/24 at 8:02 pm to Tantal
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Trump will put a halt to it if elected. Biden won't do shite.
Trump negotiated and signed the trade agreement that allows China to do this. That’s the literal opposite of “halting”.
Posted on 3/19/24 at 8:04 pm to GumboPot
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One thing about Trump that he is consistent about is making good deals.
Isn't this loophole a direct result of a deal Trump literally negotiated and celebrated?
Posted on 3/19/24 at 8:04 pm to reddy tiger
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Trump negotiated and signed the trade agreement that allows China to do this. That’s the literal opposite of “halting”.
Exactly. This is literally Trump's big trade deal policy victory.
Posted on 3/19/24 at 8:06 pm to Timeoday
Remember the chinese drywall fiasco. Now picture Chinese cars? You trust them to be safe to drive?
Posted on 3/19/24 at 8:09 pm to Timeoday
Why would anyone want to drive a car made by the Chinese?
Posted on 3/19/24 at 8:12 pm to reddy tiger
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Trump negotiated and signed the trade agreement that allows China to do this. That’s the literal opposite of “halting”.
oops
Like Trump would ever flip flop on anything...
Posted on 3/19/24 at 9:07 pm to meansonny
quote:
Do you believe US corporations such as Apple, Microsoft, Tesla, etc. should be considered modern day Rosenbergs for providing the CCP with advanced industrial and manufacturing technologies?
What about the D.C. Uniparty and universities who allowed this technology transfer to China over the past 35 years.
Free trade baw.
If a company wants to share their own property, why would a government interfere?
What legal right does the government have to step in?
Now there are laws that need to be added on the books to protect individual privacy from foreign national interests.
Google can share technology. But not individuals data. Even with all of the loopholes in unilateral privacy policies, that should be outlawed and severely punished.
Just like Bank of America should have never cooperated with the FBI with nonpublic personal data surrounding January 6th without warrants.
Laws need to be on the books and given teeth for these real breeches against the public good.
But a company's own property? Why can't they do with it what they want?
So any MIC company can share high tech military advancements with our adversaries in the name of free trade?
You're a freaking NWO Globalist lunatic......certainly not an American who is committed to preserving the constitutional republic .
Posted on 3/19/24 at 9:23 pm to Tantal
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We agreed to a free trade deal with Mexico, not a free trade deal with China using Mexico as a middle man
So the giant sucking sound is actually cheap Chinesevats being sucked into the US?
Posted on 3/19/24 at 9:24 pm to Timeoday
Here’s a solution.
Don’t buy cheap Chinese cars imported from Mexico.
Don’t buy cheap Chinese cars imported from Mexico.
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