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re: Do you think it is fair that Chinese automakers can use Mexico to ship cars tax free?
Posted on 3/19/24 at 11:46 am to YouKnowImRight
Posted on 3/19/24 at 11:46 am to YouKnowImRight
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It's only fair in the sense that the bottom 50% actually have to pay something
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Posted on 3/19/24 at 11:48 am to Flats
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Yes, because it's not selective. It doesn't give DC the power to do their little social engineering projects,
It doesn't but believe me, it does not prelude DC from social engineering by some other means.
Posted on 3/19/24 at 11:50 am to GumboPot
The biggest reason we have the problems we do is that half of the voters in this country get to vote on how the government spends the other half's money.
"A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the majority discovers it can vote itself largess out of the public treasury." - Tytler
"A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the majority discovers it can vote itself largess out of the public treasury." - Tytler
Posted on 3/19/24 at 11:52 am to RogerTheShrubber
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A booming economy South of the border means less immigration.
You think only Messicans are coming across.
Posted on 3/19/24 at 11:52 am to YouKnowImRight
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"A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the majority discovers it can vote itself largess out of the public treasury." - Tytler
I could have swore the US was a Constitutional Republic.
Posted on 3/19/24 at 11:53 am to GumboPot
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And you are saying that the vehicles are being manufactured in Mexico and shipped to the US?
To take advantage of the USMCA between the U.S. and Mexico.
How is that different from Japan or the US auto companies manufacturing in Mexico?
Posted on 3/19/24 at 11:54 am to Timeoday
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I could have swore the US was a Constitutional Republic.
Same principle applies. Our elected officials buy votes with taxes they collect from the minority.
Posted on 3/19/24 at 11:57 am to meansonny
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How is that different from Japan or the US auto companies manufacturing in Mexico?
One big reason, it’s China you nitwit. They’re not going this for the consumer they’re doing it to hurt us. Thus why you protect those who aren’t enemies and prevent the enemy from doing so.
Posted on 3/19/24 at 11:57 am to momentoftruth87
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One big reason, it’s China you nitwit. They’re not going this for the consumer they’re doing it to hurt us. Thus why you protect those who aren’t enemies and prevent the enemy from doing so.
So you disagree with Trump on the tiktok ban, right>
Posted on 3/19/24 at 11:58 am to YouKnowImRight
Rand says tiktok isn’t owned or controlled by China 
Posted on 3/19/24 at 11:58 am to GumboPot
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For example when Trump put tariffs on steel and aluminum the Chinese responded with currency manipulation which lowered the the price of Chinese imports. (Yuan money printing made the dollar stronger.)
Actually, China added additional tariffs. The retaliatory tariff on US cotton was 25%. As I recall, most of the Chinese tariffs were directed at the American farmer (who protested at the time).
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The are a tool to get us to the fairest and freest trade possible.
Again, tariffs are not fair. They are not free. The inefficiencies of tariffs hurt both countries.
Why ignore hundreds of years of obvious flaws with import tariffs?
Honestly. This is settled fact by now.
Posted on 3/19/24 at 11:58 am to Timeoday
The Chinese are building cars in Mexico and selling them all over South America. Chile is one of the biggest buyers of Chinese EV cars.
Posted on 3/19/24 at 12:00 pm to momentoftruth87
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Rand says tiktok isn’t owned or controlled by China
Rand is wrong on this one. That's why so many other nations around the world have implemented bans on it.
If you think the US should prohibit China from selling cars here, you have to prohibit TikTok on the same principle or you're not consistent.
Posted on 3/19/24 at 12:00 pm to Flats
What Chinese-made car is selling in the US market? Did Trump just talk about parts?
Posted on 3/19/24 at 12:00 pm to momentoftruth87
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They’re not going this for the consumer they’re doing it to hurt us.
How many Chinese automobiles were sold in the US last year?
I'm pretty sure the answer is 0.
If you are worried that Mexicans are buying Chinese cars instead of american, then I suggest that you hold up a mirror to the US automotive industry and ask hard questions.
Posted on 3/19/24 at 12:01 pm to YouKnowImRight
I’d be fine with cutting off china completely but we never will.
Posted on 3/19/24 at 12:01 pm to Timeoday
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Do you think it is fair that Chinese automakers can use Mexico to ship cars tax free?
About as "fair" as when and what US Lawmakers did to American Manufacturing forever by opening up ChiComm dirt-cheap slave-trade products to US markets c. 1990s.
Mexican legislators are led & fed by the nose-ring by Globalist proxies, just like their US counterparts. (Capitalism is being gutted.)
Posted on 3/19/24 at 12:02 pm to meansonny
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How is that different from Japan or the US auto companies manufacturing in Mexico?
IDK. I'd have to look into it.
Let's step back for a second.
What is happening here is Trump is the first politician in a long time (probably in most people's lives including mine) that we have heard using tariffs as a tool to execute trade agreements. No fine points are being argued by Trump other than he will "hit them with a 100% tariff" which is just bloviating. Trump is just setting the negotiating framework. One thing about Trump that he is consistent about is making good deals. He is always talking about deals. This is just part of it.
Posted on 3/19/24 at 12:03 pm to momentoftruth87
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I’d be fine with cutting off china completely but we never will.
China imports about 22% of all of our outgoing exports.
Are you a registered republican, Democrat, or dumbass?
Posted on 3/19/24 at 12:04 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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quote:. Seems more like the type of trade agreements
Free trade lacks any govt mandated trade agreements
Are you a globalist or anarchist? Maybe an amalgamation of both?
Do you believe the Rosenbergs should have been executed for allegedly giving nuclear secrets to the Soviets?
Do you believe US corporations such as Apple, Microsoft, Tesla, etc. should be considered modern day Rosenbergs for providing the CCP with advanced industrial and manufacturing technologies?
What about the D.C. Uniparty and universities who allowed this technology transfer to China over the past 35 years.
Free trade baw.
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