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Posted on 9/12/24 at 5:07 pm to GumboPot
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Flats thanks for the video but aircraft aluminum or any aluminum does not have toughness characteristics of structural steel.
No shite.
It's still a more accurate representation of the sound a complex structure might make when catastrophically failing than a damned tensile test in a lab.
Posted on 9/12/24 at 5:09 pm to GumboPot
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It's difficult to answer generalities. Can you be more specific?
Sure. You cited the USGS in your reply. Who is to say that report isn’t a load of bullshite?
I think most in this thread agree that the government is full of shite. Why should we trust one entity over another.
Again, it doesn’t matter what theory you subscribe to. There are plenty of studies, articles, links, etc to support what you want. That’s today’s internet for you.
Posted on 9/12/24 at 5:12 pm to Flats
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It's still a more accurate representation of the sound a complex structure might make when catastrophically failing than a damned tensile test in a lab.
I did not make the tensile strength lab testing sound assertion. The purpose of me posting that was to debunk the theory that tensile strength lab testing sounds like a shape charge. Go back and see the tensile strength lab testing YT video I posted and who I was responding to.
Furthermore the video you posted of the airline wing failure is closer to the sound of an explosive shape charge but I've already explained why it's not applicable.
Posted on 9/12/24 at 5:18 pm to GumboPot
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GumboPot
It's awesome that this thread is still going strong. Above all else, this site should be entertaining.
I don't have the time to read everything I've missed so I hope you don't mind my asking something you may have already answered. Right before I dropped this yesterday, a poster explained the massive effort it would take to "demolition" a tower the size of those two. Is your assertion that that's exactly what happened? That demolition experts were crawling all over both towers for weeks and nobody noticed them, or they were just really good at playing HVAC repairmen carrying around shite tons of explosives?
Posted on 9/12/24 at 5:22 pm to David_DJS
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That demolition experts were crawling all over both towers for weeks and nobody noticed them, or they were just really good at playing HVAC repairmen carrying around shite tons of explosives?
An even better question is why wait? If I've got a building rigged and I want to pull one over on the public, I blow that sucker the second one of the other towers comes down. "Oh look, the tower collapsing made that smaller building collapse as well." Why wait until later that afternoon?
Posted on 9/12/24 at 5:23 pm to TexasTiger08
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Who is to say that report isn’t a load of bullshite?
The authors of the report.
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I think most in this thread agree that the government is full of shite.
Likely in terms of post 911 narrative to protect one special country.
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Why should we trust one entity over another.
You shouldn't. Be skeptical of everything until you are satisfied.
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Again, it doesn’t matter what theory you subscribe to. There are plenty of studies, articles, links, etc to support what you want. That’s today’s internet for you.
You are not wrong but there are two incredible glaring facts:
1. Building 7 free fell like a planned demolition.
2. Larry Silverstein statements are tantamount admission that it was a planned demolition. Larry Silverstein was the owner of Building 7.
The evidence, whether gain from the internet, newspaper, local news, radio, books, seminar, telephone, pager or any form of media dissemination, supports a planned demolition more than any other cause.
I could give you the information in other formats but we happen to be on the internet right now.
Posted on 9/12/24 at 5:26 pm to TexasTiger08
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What would be the significance of dancing Israelis?
They were "art students" that had unlimited access to the towers for many months before 911.
They allegedly were celebrating the results of their "art".
Posted on 9/12/24 at 5:27 pm to Flats
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An even better question is why wait? If I've got a building rigged and I want to pull one over on the public, I blow that sucker the second one of the other towers comes down. "Oh look, the tower collapsing made that smaller building collapse as well." Why wait until later that afternoon?
And why bring both towers down as cover for demolishing WTC 7 when one would have been just as good?
Posted on 9/12/24 at 5:28 pm to GumboPot
All I know is that, at the very minimum, 9/11 was allowed to happen.
Posted on 9/12/24 at 5:30 pm to David_DJS
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Is your assertion that that's exactly what happened?
My assertion it that Building 7 was a planned demolition. The basis for that was the nature of Building 7 collapse, Larry Silverstein's own words, witnesses on the ground that heard explosions and explosions recorded just before the collapse that sound just like the cadence of shape charges of high rise demolitions.
I do not know how the building was rigged for demo. For all we know it could have been partially rigged and finalized during the middle of the day on 911.
Just before the building collapsed Larry Silverstein said "pull it". Fire fighters around the areas were yelling at people standing by telling them "get out...it's about to blow". Then a quick series of explosions happened and she fell.
Posted on 9/12/24 at 5:34 pm to Sarcastaball667
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What about the fact there’s no footage anywhere that a plane even hit the pentagon lmao
I have not gone down that rabbit hole.
I think a lot of these rabbit holes are intentional and made to distract from the simple and obvious stuff.
Posted on 9/12/24 at 5:37 pm to GumboPot
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My assertion it that Building 7 was a planned demolition. The basis for that was the nature of Building 7 collapse, Larry Silverstein's own words, witnesses on the ground that heard explosions and explosions recorded just before the collapse that sound just like the cadence of shape charges of high rise demolitions.
To be clear then, you're not arguing that the twin towers were a planned demolition. You're suggesting that WTC 7 was rigged to be demolished in case terrorists ever flew planes into the twin towers/brought them down and provided cover for the demolition of WTC 7?
Posted on 9/12/24 at 5:49 pm to GumboPot
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witnesses on the ground that heard explosions and explosions recorded just before the collapse that sound just like the cadence of shape charges of high rise demolitions.
Link?
There’s tons of video and audio recordings immediately preceding wtc 7 collapse that don’t have anything in it that sounds like demolition charges.
Eta: according to the nist report like 10 million+ would have clearly heard the charges needed to blow wtc 7.
This post was edited on 9/12/24 at 6:26 pm
Posted on 9/12/24 at 6:19 pm to GumboPot
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The authors of the report.
They could have been manipulated, paid off, etc. Why trust anybody?
Posted on 9/12/24 at 6:54 pm to GumboPot
quote:so, it wasn’t the USA?
Catch up in the thread. It's MOST likely was not the same government you are talking about.
Posted on 9/12/24 at 10:48 pm to Toomer Deplorable
Nice video.
Didn’t address building 7 at all though.
Didn’t address building 7 at all though.
Posted on 9/13/24 at 12:55 am to GumboPot
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The Building 7 owner doesn't.
I do; he doesn’t. That means we are polling right at 50%.
Posted on 9/13/24 at 7:20 am to SouthEasternKaiju
LINK i just never could get passed the dancing israelis. who all turned out to be mossad agents and were sent home by bush. total setup.
Posted on 9/13/24 at 8:07 am to texas tortilla
Don’t care about out of context videos.
Issue is building 7.
Issue is building 7.
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