re: Do people still believe that WTC 7 was NOT a planned demolition?

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One video has a bunch of flashing lights as the purported explosions but none of the other videos do.

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and those holes just spontaneously appeared?

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One video has a bunch of flashing lights as the purported explosions but none of the other videos do.

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That video is doctored, unfortunately.

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show them doing the demo near the top of the building as opposed to the base

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video doesn't show the whole building; dont detonation experts put charges up and down in a 'zipper' effect to ensure it collapses inward?

I don't see anything in your first link that discusses thermite.

In your other link it says, "The chips are characterized by a red
layer in which XEDS analysis identifies carbon, oxygen,
aluminum, silicon, and iron."

Aren't those all normal common elements found in building materials and office products?

Even the iron rich spheres can be replicated in your own home by igniting steel wool. One of those papers associates those easily replicated spheres with thermite seemingly only because it is part of a chip sample that also contains elements found in building materials and office products.

And why use thermite to demo a building when even demolition experts don't? They don't use it because it is impractical. It's not even explosive. They need more control over when structural failure occurs and thermite just simply does not provide that level of control or precision. Why take the "control" out of "controlled demolition"? And as stated earlier in this thread, why use an impractical substance with limited control to break a world record for imploding a building?

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Not making claims about WTC 1 and 2, just allowing the evidence to lead me to where it goes. There is a tremendous amount of information and disinformation about WTC 1 and 2 that does not make sense and if making sense of it hurts sensibilities, I'm sorry. That is not my intention.

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Questioning your sensibilities is not the same as having mine hurt.

I'm just trying to get you to post specifically what you believe and my thought is that as you type it out, there may be a point where you'll realize how ridiculous it is. Not the questions, mind you - but the shite you're filling the vacuum left by unanswered questions with.

Back to the attacks - so you do believe the towers were a controlled demolition. Why not just say that?

Were the airplanes flown into the towers also a part of the conspiracy, or were the conspirators just unbelievably lucky in having al qaeda fly plans into towers at about the same time the demolition had been planned?

The ingredients of thermite also happen to be common to building materials. Barium is used in concrete and sheetrock. Antimony is used in electronics. Steel, iron, aluminum are also obviously tied to common building materials. Seems like there's no way to conclude with a shred of credibility that a few fragments of rusted material are actually thermite if the chemical compounds are much more credibly tied to common structural materials and office gear.

Maybe you can start over by citing which elements unique to thermite and in an amount that could conceivably be tied to the use of thermite to break a world record of controlled demolition, were found in the rubble.

Is that video from the 81st floor? That's about the area where one of the planes hit. I know very little about composition of a plane and its potential cargo, but when we combine the possibilities of the plane with possible sources unique to that floor, then maybe we can embrace a little Occam's Razor. From what I have read, that floor was where one of the building's bank of batteries where an uninterrupted power supply had been installed. Seems to be video of what happens when batteries located there for an uninterrupted power supply get damaged in a fire. Do you disagree?

You're asking me "Why not both", but you're not asking why demolition companies do not.ask that same question. They don't use both, do they?

If you're going to wire a building for controlled demolition using all the loud drilling to insert explosive charges, and then blow up a building, what purpose does a quieter thermite serve? You've already alerted everyone and you're about to create multiple massive explosions..

And what's with comparing thermite dropped to kill humans versus using it to bring down more hardened structures? I don't understand the relevance.

This topic seems to have been about WTC7, not the other towers. Wouldn't the thread follow a clearer direction if we stuck with the thread title? Are you suggesting both were brought down with thermite (for some crazy reason that even demolition experts cannot explain for you), or just one tower?

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Quietly cut steel.

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No debris showed cut steel. No evidence whatsoever.

Are you suggesting that this was such a clean, well executed operation that all tonnage of cut steel was surreptitiously lifted and removed (because they knew exactly where in the massive debris field to find it?), along with all detonation cords commonly found in controlled demolition rubble?

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Back to the attacks - so you do believe the towers were a controlled demolition. Why not just say that?

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Let me ask you a question: do you believe the Saudi terrorists that flew the planes into the various buildings were patsies?

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The only planes I saw were on the Tell-Lie-Vision.

Some eyewitnesses claim to have never seen any planes.

Just sayin...

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JFC

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I think by definition and act, someone that flies a plane into a building for a cause is a patsy.

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Next step:

Who or what entity patsy'd them? Just looking for a logical guess.

The official narrative was OBL through his Saudi family resources brainwashed these terrorist to fly planes into these buildings because of long time religious, political or other reasons.

Another tin foil hat theory is U.S. intelligence provided the resources to OBL since the Clinton days and U.S. intelligence motivation was a multitrillion dollar war theater.

Another tin foil hat theory was mostly due to Mossad who worked with Larry Silverstein as a common insurance fraud criminal where Mossad knew that with the U.S. and the ME in conflict 1000s of years of hate can be kept off our favorite little country for a couple of decades.

Or maybe its all parties:

30% OBL taking advantage of U.S. intelligence resources.
10% of Larry Silverstein playing common insurance fraud criminal.
30% U.S. intelligence with the multitrillion dollar incentive to usher in a money making war and grow the U.S. government.
30% Mossad to keep the heat off their little country from ME actors with the U.S. keeping them busy with war.

Maybe it's not a grand conspiracy. It could be just a convergence of interest.