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re: Diversity has been a total failure for America

Posted on 4/24/26 at 6:15 pm to
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
55296 posts
Posted on 4/24/26 at 6:15 pm to
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Diversity has not been a total failure.

Multi-culturalism and Identity politics has been an abject failure.

We should be a melting pot where we all share American values, which includes that best from ever culture. Instead, we became one of those partitioned plates where the meat is separated from the vegetables and the dessert and everyone owns there own little piece of American culture that nobody else is allowed to intrude upon.

This guy gets it. Diversity is not the problem; multiculturalism is! To the people, like the OP, who ask, “How has diversity made us stronger?” My God, that’s one of the easiest questions to answer.
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Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476174 posts
Posted on 4/24/26 at 6:37 pm to
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You’re now further moving the goalposts

They haven't moved at all

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from “predominantly European” to “does the vast majority of the population have [some] European DNA”.


No the latter was always my point. Don't create a straw man to try to argue against.

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Now Brazil is the west, too?

Brazil is part of Western culture, yes.

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You’ve already been told that neither Google or grok ai consider Central America the west,

Have I? I went through their criteria specifically and showed how they were. And:

Google:



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Not a claim myself or anyone else is making, not relevant to the discussion.

It's relative to you ignoring how the vast majority of the population in Latin America is of European descent.

As I already explained:

[img]The Latino ethnicity is a white race that flows from Spanish and Portuguese blood. Both are Western European.[/img]

The population without European DNA is pure Amer-Indian, which is a minority in the region

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You’ve aligned yourself against the board again

No, just you.

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because you’re a left-leaning

So dumb
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
102538 posts
Posted on 4/24/26 at 7:07 pm to
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Are you asking whether there are non-white male people in the U.S. that have contributed to our society?


Of course there are.

The question is have the groups as a whole been a net positive or net negative to American society and culture? Do their voting habits and ideals fall in line with American ideals and culture? Do their economic contributions outweigh their use of public resources? Are more of them valuable members of society that work hard, have families and build things than those of them who commit crimes, use up taxpayer resources, and destroy neighborhoods and cities?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476174 posts
Posted on 4/25/26 at 5:51 am to
The population that creates the most negative externalities and has the most pathological culture has been here for like 500 years and was here in a similar population % (around 12%) for whatever period you would list as America's apex. You can't use the talking point that some public policy (especially a recent one) created a push for this diversity.
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
44165 posts
Posted on 4/25/26 at 6:34 am to
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You can't use the talking point that some public policy (especially a recent one) created a push for this diversity.


Open borders (in essence).

And let’s not forget, you are good with arming the criminal invaders.
Posted by GatorOnAnIsland
Florida
Member since Jan 2019
9992 posts
Posted on 4/25/26 at 6:39 am to
Pepper Spray, Gun Sales and Ammunition sales are up.
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
44165 posts
Posted on 4/25/26 at 6:39 am to
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Can someone name one aspect of diversity that has made America stronger?


You can be diverse within an overarching umbrella.

However, once you invite oppositional pathogens (communism, Islam, single moms, Environmental nazis, and/or the trans mafia), then you will have issues.

Sadly, those have all manifested themselves in modern day America. They also align politically (go figure).
Posted by Gifman
Clearwater Beach, FL
Member since Jan 2021
18805 posts
Posted on 4/25/26 at 6:51 am to
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Since a lot of this discussion is targeted at Latinos


There’s not many posters on this board I’ve seen rag on legal immigrants who are Latinos. The Latino argument mainly centers around illegal Latinos, who are a massive problem for American culture because most illegals do not assimilate well. Illegal Latinos also drain resources and are a net negative regardless of their “employment.”
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476174 posts
Posted on 4/25/26 at 6:54 am to
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Open borders (in essence).


Calling slavery "open borders" is a take
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
44165 posts
Posted on 4/25/26 at 7:01 am to
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Calling slavery "open borders" is a take



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public policy (especially a recent one)



Slavery is a recent policy?
Who knew?
The SPLC?

What kind of guns are you buying for the illegal invaders this Christmas?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476174 posts
Posted on 4/25/26 at 7:03 am to
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There’s not many posters on this board I’ve seen rag on legal immigrants who are Latinos.


This thread is about diversity though, not immigration status. Lots of legal Latino immigrant families don't fully assimilate for a few generations, like my Italian ancestors.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476174 posts
Posted on 4/25/26 at 7:04 am to
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Slavery is a recent policy?

No. You apparently didn't actually read my post

I'll quote a portion to help you

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The population that creates the most negative externalities and has the most pathological culture has been here for like 500 years


Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
44165 posts
Posted on 4/25/26 at 7:07 am to
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Lots of legal Latino immigrant families don't fully assimilate for a few generations


Yet they did assimilate.

Latinos, Italians, Irish, etc. all have commonalities.

Islam…not so much.
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
44165 posts
Posted on 4/25/26 at 7:08 am to
Bitch, I quoted YOUR post.

Own it.

ETA

Here ya go:

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You can't use the talking point that some public policy (especially a recent one) created a push for this diversity.
This post was edited on 4/25/26 at 7:10 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476174 posts
Posted on 4/25/26 at 7:14 am to
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Islam…not so much.


Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476174 posts
Posted on 4/25/26 at 7:15 am to
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Bitch, I quoted YOUR post.

Without reading the rest, apparently.

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You can't use the talking point that some public policy (especially a recent one) created a push for this diversity.

Because slavery is centuries old. It's not a "new" push for "diversity"

Reading is fundamental
Posted by Boomer65
Norman
Member since Sep 2022
1285 posts
Posted on 4/25/26 at 7:59 am to
DEI has been counterproductive, often providing cover for incompetence through accusations of bias. Transitioning to a true meritocracy will be a long struggle in such a divided nation.
Posted by RCDfan1950
United States
Member since Feb 2007
39598 posts
Posted on 4/25/26 at 8:06 am to
There used to be ideological Qualifiers for diverse people seeking to immigrate to our Constitutional Republic. Said people had to pledge allegiance therein. When those standards were dropped that is when the division began.

“Can two walk together lest they be agreed “. A hard no on that.
Posted by FearlessFreep
Baja Alabama
Member since Nov 2009
19964 posts
Posted on 4/25/26 at 8:38 am to
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Our crime has dropped like a rock, too, but this becomes a correlation-causation thing pretty quickly I reckon.
compared to when our population was roughly 90% people of white European descent?

show your work
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
44165 posts
Posted on 4/25/26 at 8:42 am to
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Reading is fundamental


So let me see if I understand what you think that you wrote:

Recent public policy decisions cannot be used as a talking point concerning the push for diversity.

Soooo…open borders is not a basis for this push?


Also…
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slavery is centuries old. It's not a "new" push for "diversity"


I didn’t argue otherwise.

YOU argued that no new policy fits the circumstances at hand.

Reading comprehension is fundamental.

ETA

You were dumb enough to actually post this:

quote:

Calling slavery "open borders" is a take


You posted that in response to me saying that the recent policy decision of having a (veritable) open border is a factor in the push for diversity.

Again…

reading comprehension seems to be an issue for you.
This post was edited on 4/25/26 at 8:50 am
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