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re: Dilbert Man, Clott Adams, having some vaccine regrets now
Posted on 10/11/22 at 12:22 pm to VolcanicTiger
Posted on 10/11/22 at 12:22 pm to VolcanicTiger
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Who is Top G?
Andrew Tate
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Posted on 10/11/22 at 12:24 pm to VolcanicTiger
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All you guys crowing about how you weren't fooled - you didn't know any better than the rest of us, you just guessed right. It's like bragging about calling a coin toss right, or giving out financial advice because you won Lotto. Both extremes were stupid.
Some made really educated, good faith guesses. Or they just admitted they didn't really know but just didn't trust the authorities and their motives. I think that's admirable, whether it's correct or not.
Others threw everything to the wall, much of which didn't stick at all, and run around calling themselves by silly names and trying to demonize people who wore a mask or got the shot or whatever. These are the same people who immediately believed every single election steal narrative and then moved on from the false ones without ever holding themselves accountable. Those people don't deserve any respect. They'll do it over and over and over again with no self-accountability.
But this is largely a fiction on this board, not something going on in real life. Most people, including those who stopped getting boosters and don't trust the COVID narratives, aren't wringing their hands in regret at getting the vaccine. Unlike many of the people on this board who lectured for everyone to move on with their lives, they've...actually moved on with their lives. Just like COVID, it's not something worthy of spending hours of your week fretting/ranting/whatever about.
Posted on 10/11/22 at 12:27 pm to VolcanicTiger
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All you guys crowing about how you weren't fooled - you didn't know any better than the rest of us, you just guessed right.
I just weighed things out (primarily on how fast these shots were made available with a lack of a trial period) and we’re also in the position of owning our business so employer mandates weren’t ever going to impact us.
There was never any guessing for me. What I was being sold on by the authorities and health professionals never ever made any sense to me considering that I’m not in any high risk category. So I didn’t partake.
Had I been employed by someone else and they demanded I get the shot… I still wouldn’t have. I can always find another job, I can’t take a shot with unknown side effects just because it’s for the “greater good”. That’s a horrible decision to be faced with and I sympathize with people that decided to. The anger should be focused on the political class, companies and medical professionals that outright lied to the public about Covid.
Posted on 10/11/22 at 12:29 pm to OMLandshark
"We were all fooled to one degree or another"
No, we all weren't.
No, we all weren't.
Posted on 10/11/22 at 12:30 pm to indianswim
At some point they will reveal the true number of deaths for covid, actual people who died of covid and were not already sick. It will be like a bad flu season, much like the "Sars crisis during Obama".
I fear for those who are relatively intelligent who will have to admit they were fooled out of fear. I believe their will be mass suicides, especially if they gave it to their kids.
I fear for those who are relatively intelligent who will have to admit they were fooled out of fear. I believe their will be mass suicides, especially if they gave it to their kids.
Posted on 10/11/22 at 12:33 pm to Alt26
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But it WAS the first in a society where social media is ubiquitous, vapid corporate and cultural virtue signaling is celebrated, any degree of reasonable skepticism to the mainstream narrative is forcefully ridiculed, and corporations/media are unabashedly hyper-partisan. It was the first pandemic in any our lifetimes where society began looking for the illness under every rock...thus making the prevalence of such seem unprecedently high. That's not to say Covid-19 wasn't very much real. It was/is. It's that the societal overreaction to such was devoid of logic and anyone who was willing to consider what effects the reaction could have later down the line was able to see early on how horribly irrational such reaction would be.
Now you see more and more people express regrets, justifying it by saying "we just didn't know." There is a bit of truth to that. Largely because the information provide to the public was almost completely one-sided and had zero tolerance for discussion of contrary viewpoints. Even objectively contrary viewpoints. But most who are now having these regrets simply didn't "want to know" because that would require a modicum of critical thinking and reasonable skepticism beyond unquestionably accepting what the man/woman on TV, the mayor/governor's podium, Congress, etc told you. At the time, virtually everyone with a "public voice" denigrated you as insane for questioning the mainstream viewpoint.
Spot on, but add the political element to the Covid shitshow. The response to Covid-19 absolutely carried an element of sinking Trump. In fact, I think it was the predominate element up to November '20.
Posted on 10/11/22 at 12:37 pm to JJJimmyJimJames
Covid was used to divide and conquer otherwise like minded individuals. It worked pretty at first. I’m sure there are still many like minded folks that are still upset at each other bc of their “Covid Stance”.
Posted on 10/11/22 at 12:38 pm to VolcanicTiger
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VolcanicTiger
Fair.
Posted on 10/11/22 at 1:11 pm to uscpuke
I have been wfh for 5 years.
Posted on 10/11/22 at 1:11 pm to GumboPot
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silver lining form the COVID mess is
It should be that people are much more leery of instant models and outcomes.
Posted on 10/11/22 at 1:15 pm to indianswim
The fact that the vaccines were not tested for transmission reduction was available for anyone who wanted to look themselves and not automatically believe the propaganda. See page 32 of this WHO publication
As for misleading the public into believing they were protecting others, that is what the experiments determined would be the most effective way to increase vaccine uptake. This publication shows
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What is the overall certainty of the evidence for the outcomes?
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High for prevention of symptomatic SARS-CoV-2. Low for hospitalizations and
death. Moderate for safety. Absent for impact on transmission
As for misleading the public into believing they were protecting others, that is what the experiments determined would be the most effective way to increase vaccine uptake. This publication shows
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On average, a simple informational intervention is effective, but it is even more effective to add language framing vaccine uptake as protecting others and as a cooperative action. Not only does emphasizing that vaccination is a prosocial action increase uptake, but it also increases people’s willingness to pressure others to do so, both by direct persuasion and negative judgment of non-vaccinators.
Posted on 10/11/22 at 1:18 pm to VolcanicTiger
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All you guys crowing about how you weren't fooled - you didn't know any better than the rest of us, you just guessed right.
Posted on 10/11/22 at 1:21 pm to mtntiger
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I now have to take meds to control the HBP. Not sure who makes the HBP meds, but someone is profiting.
Many HBP meds are generic and the cost to me is actually better than the cost to the store. I pay $2.00 per medication for 30 days for each of the two HBP meds. They are made in India. When you consider the cost of the medication, manufacturing, packaging, shipping, inventory control, and a pharmacist to dispense the med - someone is paying me to take them.
Posted on 10/11/22 at 1:59 pm to VolcanicTiger
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All you guys crowing about how you weren't fooled - you didn't know any better than the rest of us, you just guessed right.
That is one big load of bullshite. Every fricking person had almost a full year to come to the realization that for 95% of the population, there was no serious threat from covid. They also had the opportunity to see that the hype on the virus was about control (mask up, social distancing, shortened store hours, closed businesses). Then, we get this fast-tracked set of mRNA "vaccines" with no long-term testing and suspect short-term testing. Instead of targeting those most at risk, the push was for everyone to get the vaccine. This is so fricking anti-science that it is laughable. What happens if 98% of those taking the vaccine develop cancer in 5 years? It's new. No one knows the long term effects. With something new, you limit the exposure to the public - not maximize exposure. Within 3 months of the vaccine being available, they were starting the push to mandate it to allow people to work.
There was no guessing in my decision not to take the vaccine, it was just common sense.
Posted on 10/11/22 at 2:31 pm to indianswim
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massive institutional discrimination
Posted on 10/11/22 at 2:33 pm to LakeCharles
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Many HBP meds are generic and the cost to me is actually better than the cost to the store. I pay $2.00 per medication for 30 days for each of the two HBP meds. They are made in India. When you consider the cost of the medication, manufacturing, packaging, shipping, inventory control, and a pharmacist to dispense the med - someone is paying me to take them.
My point was more that after being forced to take the shots I never wanted, I am now forced to take meds for HBP that I never had before (was usually 115/78).
Now, out of the blue, I get readings like 148/112 that there is no medical explanation for. No family history of heart disease.
Resting heart rate is high 60s/70s. Oxygen levels are out standing. Cholesterol is fine. I am maybe 10-15 pounds overweight (actually coming down), but I'm in good aerobic shape.
Posted on 10/11/22 at 2:35 pm to indianswim
I thought the dilbert guy was based? Wasn’t this a thread a few weeks ago?
Posted on 10/11/22 at 2:37 pm to OMLandshark
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We were all fooled to one degree or another.
Classic coping method.
If I was “fooled”why haven’t I (or my wife and kids) gotten even one shot?
Posted on 10/11/22 at 3:17 pm to indianswim
Adams was an insufferable twat when he believed in the vaccine. Now he's just as much of an insufferable twat when people point that out.
This post was edited on 10/11/22 at 3:42 pm
Posted on 10/11/22 at 3:48 pm to LakeCharles
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Every fricking person had almost a full year to come to the realization that for 95% of the population, there was no serious threat from covid. They also had the opportunity to see that the hype on the virus was about control (mask up, social distancing, shortened store hours, closed businesses). Then, we get this fast-tracked set of mRNA "vaccines" with no long-term testing and suspect short-term testing. Instead of targeting those most at risk, the push was for everyone to get the vaccine. This is so fricking anti-science that it is laughable. What happens if 98% of those taking the vaccine develop cancer in 5 years? It's new. No one knows the long term effects. With something new, you limit the exposure to the public - not maximize exposure. Within 3 months of the vaccine being available, they were starting the push to mandate it to allow people to work.
Absolutely spot on.
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There was no guessing in my decision not to take the vaccine, it was just common sense.
Same for me.
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