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Did the CIA kill Kiki Camarena?

Posted on 9/13/20 at 11:16 pm
Posted by mule74
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Member since Nov 2004
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Posted on 9/13/20 at 11:16 pm
Has anyone watched The Last Narc on Amazon prime? I highly recommend it.

It’s a documentary surrounding the murder of DEA agent Kiki Camerena in Mexico in the 80s. I am familiar with the case having watched the first season of Narcos (Mexico) on Netflix.

After watching it, I believe fully that the US government was either directly involved or knows what happened to Camarena and is hiding it intentionally.

It provides pretty compelling evidence that the CIA was trafficking drugs through Latin and South America to support the Contras. Between the reporter in LA and the Berry Seal stuff, I think it’s almost undeniable at this point.

We need to wipe out that entire snake pit in D.C. and that includes Langley.
This post was edited on 9/13/20 at 11:19 pm
Posted by Loungefly85
Lafayette
Member since Jul 2016
7930 posts
Posted on 9/13/20 at 11:17 pm to
Nah.

Just brutal South American bullshite.
Posted by 1BamaRTR
In Your Head Blvd
Member since Apr 2015
22533 posts
Posted on 9/13/20 at 11:23 pm to
Maybe, maybe not.

Certainly wouldn’t be surprising if they really did
Posted by lsuconnman
Baton rouge
Member since Feb 2007
2662 posts
Posted on 9/13/20 at 11:24 pm to
quote:

After watching it, I believe fully that the US government was either directly involved or knows what happened to Camarena and is hiding it intentionally.


What remains unknown? The whole thing was recorded. There’s even a Supreme Court decision about kidnapping the doctor that did it and sending him to the US for trial.
Posted by L.A.
The Mojave Desert
Member since Aug 2003
61303 posts
Posted on 9/13/20 at 11:31 pm to
quote:

Did the CIA kill Kiki Camarena?
Not only no, but frick no, although it's almost certain that CIA agent Felix Rodriguez was there for at least part of the interrogation of Camarena.

He was killed by Felix Gallardo and Rafael Caro-Quintero.

There's a good book on the subject, by a journalist named Elaine Shannon. It's called Desperados.
Posted by GnashRebel
Member since May 2015
8180 posts
Posted on 9/13/20 at 11:31 pm to
Yeah, they have always known what happened. What is this nonsense.
Posted by TheArrogantCorndog
Highland Rd
Member since Sep 2009
14815 posts
Posted on 9/13/20 at 11:35 pm to
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Not only no, but frick no, although it's almost certain that CIA agent Felix Rodriguez was there for at least part of the interrogation of Camarena.

He was killed by Felix Gallardo and Rafael Caro-Quintero.


I think the CIA had a mole, but was powerless to stop it... I think Rafa had him killed, more so than Felix

Rafa was a bad frickin dude
Posted by BamaCoaster
God's Gulf
Member since Apr 2016
5270 posts
Posted on 9/13/20 at 11:45 pm to
quote:

provides pretty compelling evidence that the CIA was trafficking drugs through Latin and South America to support the Contras. Between the reporter in LA and the Berry Seal stuff, I think it’s almost undeniable at this point.



Smoke and Mirrors by Dan Baum is an excellent read if you’re into this kind of stuff.
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
30153 posts
Posted on 9/13/20 at 11:49 pm to
I believe back in those days federal LEOs did work very well together in most instances and certainly didn't do much coordinating. I'm not the tin foil guy but to me it seems plausible that the CIA's activities in the region were not quite on the up and up, to be hidden from even fellow countrymen LEOs. So CIA guy, who was by all accounts a go to guy for high level officials, may very well have been seeking to know anything and everything the DEA might have known about CIA activities in that region.
Posted by bayourougebengal
Member since Mar 2008
7193 posts
Posted on 9/14/20 at 3:59 am to
I think it was more about him being a huge threat to Felix, who was insanely ambitious. Did the CIA know it was coming? I can't imagine they didn't.
Posted by trinidadtiger
Member since Jun 2017
13380 posts
Posted on 9/14/20 at 4:27 am to
As a sidenote, the person who scouted locations for Narcos was murdered while out touring a potential site in Mexico.....the series must have been a little too close to the real facts for a few people.

When they were depicting Carlos Salinas as directing who would be the next president I cringed, thats all true, and the drug running is at the highest levels of govt. I thought to myself, whoever is doing this series believes they have "artistic immunity", unfortunately that does not work south of the border.

They never touched on Carlos Slim, one of the richest men in the world. When Salinas was President he privatized the bank of Mexico, TelMex, etc, and somehow Slim ended up with all of it for a song. Many say he is a front man for Salinas. Carlos controls the phone companies in Mexico and central America, HUGELY profitable given all the illegals and legals calling home (bigger than the long distance business within Mexico). He controls the bank and huge foreign exchange in the name of US dollars, the lions share in drug money.

When Trump became president, the first person he visited with was not the President of Mexico.....but Carlos Slim. Trump knows who runs Mexico.

Know how the NYTimes hates Trump, guess who was the largest shareholder....Carlos Slim, he was so pissed about the idea of that wall. He was also a big supporter of hillary, go figure, she never turned away a dirty dollar for a deed.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 9/14/20 at 4:28 am to
quote:

It provides pretty compelling evidence that the CIA was trafficking drugs through Latin and South America to support the Contras.


Does it? There was a lot of innuendo.

I think they were connected to people who were involved in the Camarena hit.
Posted by rebeloke
Member since Nov 2012
16110 posts
Posted on 9/14/20 at 4:33 am to
George H W Bush was directly involved
Posted by Tesla
the Laurentian Abyss
Member since Dec 2011
7971 posts
Posted on 9/14/20 at 5:45 am to
Without a doubt in my mind. It pains me too, because it required a complete rethinking on my part to come to that conclusion. The CeyeA is an extra-Constitutional ops arm of the Deep State. I think they believe they’re right but that organization should have died before JFK. Unfortunately, they got him first. The CeyeA is always the bad guy, I’m afraid.
Posted by Lgrnwd
Member since Jan 2018
5237 posts
Posted on 9/14/20 at 7:33 am to
The CIA most likely played a part in the kidnapping and interrogation. Whether the CIA actually wanted him dead and killed him? I dunno, and may just be splitting hairs for the sake of discussion.
Posted by GeauxGutsy
Member since Jul 2017
4717 posts
Posted on 9/14/20 at 7:56 am to
We will never know, but it’s entirely plausible.

Good watch for sure.
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
21790 posts
Posted on 9/14/20 at 7:59 am to
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I am familiar with the case having watched the first season of Narcos (Mexico) on Netflix.

Bruh......
Posted by thadcastle
Member since Dec 2019
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Posted on 9/14/20 at 8:31 am to
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This post was edited on 9/14/20 at 8:32 am
Posted by Scoobie
Member since Jul 2017
187 posts
Posted on 9/14/20 at 9:14 am to
quote:

Just brutal South American bullshite.


Que¿ Mexico is in North America lol
Posted by notsince98
KC, MO
Member since Oct 2012
18005 posts
Posted on 9/14/20 at 10:31 am to
quote:

He was killed by Felix Gallardo and Rafael Caro-Quintero.


That doesn't mean it wasn't CIA.
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