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Posted on 9/21/25 at 8:19 pm to loogaroo
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We should always forgive our fellow man
Show me the progs apologizing for turning up them temp with cries of Nazi and Fascist then I'll take your concerns as genuine instead of trolling.
Posted on 9/21/25 at 8:22 pm to loogaroo
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Ralph Anthony "Iggy" Ignatowski (April 8, 1926 – March 7, 1945) was a United States Marine Corps private who was captured and killed by the Japanese in the Battle of Iwo Jima during World War II. He was a member of the Marine rifle company platoon who climbed to the top of Mount Suribachi and raised the American flag on February 23, 1945.
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Other eyewitness reports further indicated that Ignatowski had been tortured in the cave by the Japanese for three days, during which time they also cut out his eyes, cut off his ears, smashed in his teeth and skull. He had several wounds to his stomach, which had been repeatedly stabbed with a bayonet. As a final insult, his genitalia was severed and stuffed into his mouth.
Posted on 9/21/25 at 8:27 pm to loogaroo
My grandfather hated those “Goddamn Nips“ until the day he died.
Posted on 9/21/25 at 8:27 pm to loogaroo
Love comes in many forms. Mercy is a form of love. Fidelity is a type of love but Forgiveness is the highest form of love.
Posted on 9/21/25 at 8:29 pm to loogaroo
absolutely yes. Massive rebuilding plans were initiated by the US for both countries to assist in recovery.
Posted on 9/21/25 at 8:30 pm to burger bearcat
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Forgiving does mean being excused from justice
Is it up to you or me, the individual, to carry out that justice? Why not leave that judgement up to God?
Posted on 9/21/25 at 8:31 pm to loogaroo
My grandpa never forgave the people that killed his fellow servicemen or those that almost sank him.
They never asked.
They never asked.
Posted on 9/21/25 at 8:52 pm to parrothead
Most did not forgive.
But some did.
Louis Zamperini did. See the movie and book Unbroken
But some did.
Louis Zamperini did. See the movie and book Unbroken
Posted on 9/21/25 at 8:53 pm to loogaroo
quote:are you saying there's a higher evil than Satan?
Trump is fighting a higher evil and Charlie was a prophet trying to bring us together. There is a difference.
Posted on 9/21/25 at 8:54 pm to loogaroo
My grandfather fought in the Philippines, was captured and tortured.
He never forgave them.
He never forgave them.
Posted on 9/21/25 at 9:04 pm to loogaroo
I had a great Uncle who was a Marine in WWII. I never saw his wounds but he was bayoneted in the chest and was carved up pretty good. He killed the guy and kept the bayonet on his mantle until the day he died. I only know the story from family members, he never talked about it. At all.
He sure as hell never forgave the Japanese.
He sure as hell never forgave the Japanese.
Posted on 9/21/25 at 9:25 pm to TrueTiger
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Forgiveness is a thing for individuals, not for governments.
Agreed.
Paraphrased Dear Abby:
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Forgiveness is about letting go of resentment for your own peace, but it doesn't require you to maintain a relationship with the person who hurt you. It's important to protect yourself and set boundaries to prevent further harm, even after forgiving.
Posted on 9/21/25 at 9:40 pm to Neutral Underground
Every Pacific war vet I met carried a seething hatred of the Japanese. I’ve. seen interviews where it is otherwise, but my best friend’s grandad was on one of the flamethrower tanks in the Pacific campaign and always said the flamethrower was the greatest tool in the island campaigns because they didn’t deserve a bullet.
Posted on 9/21/25 at 10:26 pm to Baldy
Flamethrowers were used to take entrenched positions from certain angles almost always where the Japanese had refused to surrender even after running out of ammo and explosives.
To a large degree .... it was payback. As one of my uncles told me, who was part of the late stage island hopping campaigns that culminated on Iwo Jima and Okinawa, torching their positions was payback for the sailors that had burned in the ships at Pearl Harbor and it was done with some sense of retribution in mind. No one blinked an eye ... even at times when white flags were raised.
It was also done to send a message. Keep in mind that both of the A-Bombs dropped, in essence, burned incinerated people.
If you've ever seen the pictures of the charred bodies being removed from ships after the attack on Pearl Harbor ... it was payback for that.
We never got true payback for the 9/11 attacks on the WTC where 1000s burned alive. Some even jumped to theirs deaths to avoid being burned alive.
Reading the accounts of the burning of Columbia in 1865, and all the lost unarmed non-combatant souls, especially the women and children .... the statue of Sherman in Central Park is a memorial to pure evil from my perspective.
To a large degree .... it was payback. As one of my uncles told me, who was part of the late stage island hopping campaigns that culminated on Iwo Jima and Okinawa, torching their positions was payback for the sailors that had burned in the ships at Pearl Harbor and it was done with some sense of retribution in mind. No one blinked an eye ... even at times when white flags were raised.
It was also done to send a message. Keep in mind that both of the A-Bombs dropped, in essence, burned incinerated people.
If you've ever seen the pictures of the charred bodies being removed from ships after the attack on Pearl Harbor ... it was payback for that.
We never got true payback for the 9/11 attacks on the WTC where 1000s burned alive. Some even jumped to theirs deaths to avoid being burned alive.
Reading the accounts of the burning of Columbia in 1865, and all the lost unarmed non-combatant souls, especially the women and children .... the statue of Sherman in Central Park is a memorial to pure evil from my perspective.
Posted on 9/21/25 at 11:13 pm to loogaroo
Hmm. My grandpa killed Germans but once told me he’d rather have been in the Pacific because Germans were very similar to “us” and the Japanese were …barbaric. But he drove a Nissan or Toyota my entire life and nearly kicked me out of his house for speaking German lmao
Posted on 9/21/25 at 11:38 pm to TFH
When I came back from Vietnam with my own Purple Heart, my parents opened up to me.
As a top turret gunner on a B-17, my dad had most of his leg shot away by a ME-109. He told me he never hated the German pilot but hated the Nazis who started the war.
My mom, on the other hand, lost a brother (my uncle) in the Pacific and detested the Japs to the day she died.
I have been able to sort my feelings about the Vietnamese people but not the NVA and the Chi-Coms.
As a top turret gunner on a B-17, my dad had most of his leg shot away by a ME-109. He told me he never hated the German pilot but hated the Nazis who started the war.
My mom, on the other hand, lost a brother (my uncle) in the Pacific and detested the Japs to the day she died.
I have been able to sort my feelings about the Vietnamese people but not the NVA and the Chi-Coms.
Posted on 9/21/25 at 11:49 pm to loogaroo
Of course. Now the two countries are strong allies. The English and therefore Americans have a sense of fair play that makes them very noble. We can see this fair play is kinda detrimental to us in the modern day issues we are seeing
Posted on 9/21/25 at 11:55 pm to loogaroo
My grandma bought a Toyota in the 1980s so I guess so
Posted on 9/22/25 at 12:12 am to scrooster
Japan got let off way too easily compared to Germany.
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