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re: Detailed description of the "Fall of Constantinople"
Posted on 7/9/24 at 11:09 am to Figgy
Posted on 7/9/24 at 11:09 am to Figgy
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Christianity (or the Western World)
They are NOT one and the same.
The Crusaders raped and pillaged Constantinople prior to the Muslims…the Crusaders were Western and definitely not Christian.
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Posted on 7/9/24 at 11:23 am to Figgy
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History is full of conquering armies doing horrible shite to the conquered. Christianity (or the Western World) is not exempted from that fact. If you want to highlight brutality that’s fine but understand that everyone has participated in it.
while true centuries ago.....the western world has moved on from such "global" villany....however, nearly 600 years after Constantinople, the same group portrayed in the OP is still intent on doing the same.....
Posted on 7/9/24 at 11:27 am to Auburn1968
Read Nassim Taleb in particular The Black Swan The Christians had been losing their majority status for a while before the Lebanese Civil War.
Posted on 7/9/24 at 11:36 am to ValhallaAwaits
Then what were they....officially? They were purported to be Roman Catholic trying to regain the Holy Land for Christendom.....at least that is what they said.
Was this a 700 year old Black Op by.....Turks?
Was this a 700 year old Black Op by.....Turks?
Posted on 7/9/24 at 11:42 am to burger bearcat
Sounds like Oct 7
Posted on 7/9/24 at 11:42 am to burger bearcat
If you really want to read about a little known event in World History involving the Turks and Christians, it’s the Armenian Genocide during WW1. They literally had nothing to do with the Turks failed invasion of Russia. Men’s heads were put on pikes and they raped the women/ children; nearly 1 million were killed. The rest were marched out to the desert to starve to death. Imagine the roles being reversed on that one and it wasn’t that long ago.
Posted on 7/9/24 at 11:58 am to Indefatigable
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That's nobody's business but the Turks.
That song bailed me out of a couple history test questions back in the day
Posted on 7/9/24 at 12:32 pm to Auburn1968
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Lebanon was a Christian oasis that held out until they foolishly allowed Muslims to become a majority in very recent history.
This is what the left believes they want here. They're sacrificing long-term stability for short-term politics.
Posted on 7/9/24 at 1:10 pm to sta4ever
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Maybe in Europe, but it ain’t happening in the US Jack.
It already is. We have congressional members who are from majority Muslim districts
Posted on 7/9/24 at 1:13 pm to burger bearcat
History will repeat itself.
Posted on 7/9/24 at 1:37 pm to CoachChappy
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It already is. We have congressional members who are from majority Muslim districts
Oh yeah you’re right. 3-4 people out of 535 means they’re taking over.
Posted on 7/9/24 at 1:41 pm to burger bearcat
There was a lot of social and military degeneracy that allowed it to happen.
Posted on 7/9/24 at 1:42 pm to burger bearcat
Turks have a history of not just raping females, but men and boys as well. They are an especially nasty bunch.
Posted on 7/9/24 at 1:44 pm to Figgy
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History is full of conquering armies doing horrible shite to the conquered. Christianity (or the Western World) is not exempted from that fact. If you want to highlight brutality that’s fine but understand that everyone has participated in it.
Yeah I mean radical Islam is bad, but this example is retarded.
Islam wasn't even radical at this time. This was just SOP for conquering armies.
Posted on 7/9/24 at 2:04 pm to imjustafatkid
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That will happen everywhere muslims become a majority.
The US has 2A for a reason. There’s literally billions of guns in the hands of citizens. This isn’t going to happen in our lifetime. Probably not even our kids
Posted on 7/9/24 at 2:12 pm to burger bearcat
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Erdogan—are eager to honor through their incessant calls to transform the Hagia Sophia, which has been a museum since 1945, into a mosque again.
I was in Hagia Sophia last year. It already is a Mosque.
Posted on 7/9/24 at 2:14 pm to Penrod
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I was in Hagia Sophia last year. It already is a Mosque.
Has been since 2020.
Posted on 7/9/24 at 2:24 pm to ValhallaAwaits
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The Crusaders raped and pillaged Constantinople prior to the Muslims…the Crusaders were Western and definitely not Christian.
Were they Feds wearing khakis and Templar crosses?
Posted on 7/9/24 at 2:43 pm to Esquire
Sacking of Constantinople by the Papal Armies
Christians don’t rape and torture others especially priests, monks and nuns.
For extra entertainment, the so called crusaders also hung Orthodox priests from the rafters of churches and committed other evils against the residents of Byzantium.
Christians don’t rape and torture others especially priests, monks and nuns.
For extra entertainment, the so called crusaders also hung Orthodox priests from the rafters of churches and committed other evils against the residents of Byzantium.
Posted on 7/9/24 at 2:47 pm to tigeraddict
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.the western world has moved on from such "global" villany
Yeah, I'd agree with that in large part. There are always outliers but I don't bother getting caught up with that. The West and its ideals have been extraordinarily beneficial to humanity.
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however, nearly 600 years after Constantinople, the same group portrayed in the OP is still intent on doing the same.....
The radical elements are absolutely wanting to dominate the globe. They're called to, they take it very seriously and the world is a worse place because of it. But there are some muslim nations that haven't adopted that stance. Indonesia for one example.
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