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re: DeSantis signs anti-ESG bill into law today

Posted on 5/2/23 at 12:54 pm to
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
22714 posts
Posted on 5/2/23 at 12:54 pm to
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Didn't do much fighting Congress.

Or even subordinates. He could not stand up to Anthony f'n Fauci.
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
55615 posts
Posted on 5/2/23 at 12:55 pm to
He's the nominee.


Get use to it.



ESG is horrible and you would not have that here if not for you free traders with Communist nations.
Posted by redandright
Member since Jun 2011
9794 posts
Posted on 5/2/23 at 12:55 pm to
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We on this kind of site knows this....iirc it was created back in the mid-aughts. But it didn't have the light shed on it from a legit national conversion,


So you’re saying that Trump is less aware about ESG than the average Poli Board user?

You’re probably right.
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
57778 posts
Posted on 5/2/23 at 12:56 pm to
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He's the nominee.



No, he's not.
Posted by Plx1776
Member since Oct 2017
18598 posts
Posted on 5/2/23 at 12:56 pm to
Incoming... trump propping up esg in order to shite on Desantis.
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
55615 posts
Posted on 5/2/23 at 12:57 pm to
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No, he's not.


Keep thinking that
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
57778 posts
Posted on 5/2/23 at 12:58 pm to
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Incoming... trump propping up esg in order to shite on Desantis.




I 100% expect it.

He had no trouble using Soros for financing.
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
55615 posts
Posted on 5/2/23 at 12:59 pm to
Then you were not really paying attention.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
110946 posts
Posted on 5/2/23 at 1:04 pm to
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So you’re saying that Trump is less aware about ESG than the average Poli Board user?

You’re probably right.



He put limits on it while president. LINK

Of course he couldn't pass legislation with an uncooperative congress and Biden's admin overturned them.

Got him!
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
55615 posts
Posted on 5/2/23 at 1:04 pm to
His admin passed rules to keep them from it.

Trump has absolutely been on this for a long time:

Even recently.

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Donald J. Trump

@realDonaldTrump
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Feb 24

We MUST protect Americans from Radical Leftist ESG investments—I did it once, and it's time to do it again as I set the example for Republicans across the Country to follow my lead in fighting ESG!



Posted by NineLineBind
LA....no, the other one
Member since May 2020
8626 posts
Posted on 5/2/23 at 1:12 pm to
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If the POTUS can pay off student loans, eliminate gas stoves, and mandate all federal projects are closed shop by Executive Order, surely a POTUS can issue an executive order prohibiting ESG consideration from all federal procurement, federal pension investments, etc.

Which would be reversible by the next administration, would it not? I mean I get what you're saying. But my point was that DeSantis has a favorable legislature to work with and can make long-term progress. At the federal level, we need to replace the executive AND the congress.
Posted by KAGTASTIC
Member since Feb 2022
7989 posts
Posted on 5/2/23 at 1:14 pm to
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Do you see a bunch of conservatives running around with a new backbone?

DeSantis had a pretty good conservative record in congress, and showed a willingness to vote his principles even against Republican leadership.

Obviously a bunch of them in the FL legislature have a backbone. Desantis has the most conservative legislature in the country by far, so acting like him floating with the wind at his back is anything like going against the wind like Trump dealt with is foolish. Its great he's signing this stuff but if it weren't for the FL legislature he would be more like Abbott in TX.

Ohh and there are like 14 other states doing ESG bills, so lets not act like Desantis is doing anything "new and edgy"

Like all Trump did or not, the guy shook the tree like no one else had done. And some people like Desantis are riding the wake. Everyone should have known that one of the negatives of bringing in an complete DC newb had a soft spot when it came to having the right team in place, and knowing who to trust. Big flaw is thinking he would win people over, but the biggest hole in that thought for him is that he sincerely believed that they would all agree on doing what's best for the nation first and foremost, sadly he was wrong there.

Heck I didn't like him in 2016, and thought he was a Democrat operative, but the guy faced some shite for 4 yrs and keeps fighting, no one can say the same or has dealt with anything close to what he has dealt with and continues too. That is why I think he is the best option for 24, because I'm hoping he will have the fire in the belly to just go complete scorched earth on DC as pay back, and leave it better for DeSantis or whomever in '28, since no one else will have the ability to do so like he will with 4 termed out yrs.

I'm actually indifferent on both as a fan, I'm a fan of the best long term strategy to fix this nation for 4yrs starting on 1/5/25 @ noonET. Is it the highest risk...sure, but I'm not a never DeSantis if that's the final option, like so many on this board have turned into. While they feed upvotes for board lefties that make comments against Trump in these type of threads.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
57856 posts
Posted on 5/2/23 at 1:14 pm to
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We MUST protect Americans from Radical Leftist ESG investments—I did it once, and it's time to do it again


I'm confused. What did he do once? And if he already did it, why does it need doing again?
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
130247 posts
Posted on 5/2/23 at 1:14 pm to
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At the federal level, we need to replace the executive AND the congress.


A rising tide lifts all boats. That's what happened in Florida.

The right candidate can help downticket those who are running as well. If they are successful, then they help congressional seats at the middterms.

The wrong candidate will crush downticket campaigns and lose both houses. And might prefer that if all they care about is "the fight".
Posted by UFMatt
Proud again to be an American
Member since Oct 2010
13047 posts
Posted on 5/2/23 at 1:15 pm to
DeSantis is a great Governor and as a Floridian I am proud of him. I hope he completes his term in office and then runs for the US Senate before running for President in 2028.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
57856 posts
Posted on 5/2/23 at 1:16 pm to
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f but if it weren't for the FL legislature he would be more like Abbott in TX.


It truly is amazing the tossing and turning you people keep doing. Just last week a poster was saying that DeSantis was holding the legislature hostage from passing the legislation they really wanted to pass, and only passed legislation that DeSantis wanted. Now it's "DeSantis is an empty suit, and it's the legislature doing everything".

If you don't want to be a hack, then either pick a coherent and steady talking point, or refrain from posting shite that can be easily torn apart.
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
57778 posts
Posted on 5/2/23 at 1:22 pm to
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If you don't want to be a hack, then either pick a coherent and steady talking point, or refrain from posting shite that can be easily torn apart.



Will never happens as the guy they worship swings with the wind.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
37276 posts
Posted on 5/2/23 at 1:24 pm to
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I hope he completes his term in office and then runs for the US Senate before running for President in 2028.

FYI: It is quite literally impossible for DeSantis to finish his term as governor and then run for Senate. His term as Governor doesn't end until 1/2027, and there is no Florida Senate election in 2026.
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
22714 posts
Posted on 5/2/23 at 1:30 pm to
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Desantis has the most conservative legislature in the country by far

No, it's not. Without even looking it up, I would bet my house Wyoming's state legislature makes Florida's look like California's.

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Ohh and there are like 14 other states doing ESG bills, so lets not act like Desantis is doing anything "new and edgy"

Did someone suggest RDS is the only governor doing this?
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Like all Trump did or not, the guy shook the tree like no one else had done.

Trump didn't shake the tree. He served as a big orange pinata. And I don't criticize him for that, he was up against a ridiculously bent permanent gov't/media. But you're mistaken if you believe he fought some remarkable fight. Just look at Covid under Trump.

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That is why I think he is the best option for 24, because I'm hoping he will have the fire in the belly to just go complete scorched earth on DC as pay back, and leave it better

If he ends up the nominee and hopefully then president, we'll all hope that. But that's not what we experienced in his first term. Permanent Washington/the deep state was far more powerful, more monied and more in control after Trump's time in office than it was when he took office.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
63319 posts
Posted on 5/2/23 at 1:36 pm to
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DeSantis signs anti-ESG bill into law today
Oh great. Trump will be all in on ESG by end of the week.
This post was edited on 5/2/23 at 1:36 pm
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