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re: Democratic senators propose lowering Medicare age from 65 to 50
Posted on 4/25/21 at 12:02 pm to olemissfan26
Posted on 4/25/21 at 12:02 pm to olemissfan26
Insurance is to cover items which are not necessarily expected to happen.
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Posted on 4/25/21 at 12:05 pm to dawgfan24348
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Total fear mongering from the right, no actual argument to all the evidence of it working elsewhere so let's just spew hypotheticals and pass them off as facts
With all due respect, you really have no grasp on the intricacies of the healthcare debate beyond dorm-room level bumper sticker cliches
There is a reason even most elected DEMOCRATS shy away from the system you want.
It would amount to the single largest tax increase in American history, and, beyond that, paying providers at Medicare rates would totally frick up the supply chain.
Posted on 4/25/21 at 12:05 pm to dawgfan24348
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Nah we're far better off letting the insurance companies frick us over and tell us what doctors we can and can't go to
Yes the government is so much better
Posted on 4/25/21 at 12:09 pm to dawgfan24348
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Ignore every other first world country using some form of it. Nah we're far better off letting the insurance companies frick us over and tell us what doctors we can and can't go to
We have "some form" of it, it's called Medicare and medicaid. The problem is almost everyone involved in the decision making has no skin in the game.
Posted on 4/25/21 at 12:11 pm to Powerman
I want the same for my Military Retirement benefits.
Posted on 4/25/21 at 12:12 pm to Colonel Flagg
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People always confuse/manipulate the terms health insurance with healthcare.
It's almost as if that is intentional...
Canadians who actually need medical treatment like to quip: "My dogs and cats get better care."
This post was edited on 4/25/21 at 12:13 pm
Posted on 4/25/21 at 12:13 pm to dawgfan24348
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Total fear mongering from the right, no actual argument to all the evidence of it working elsewhere so let's just spew hypotheticals and pass them off as facts
Lol your party preaches against personal responsibility for literally every aspect of life and think people will magically live better quality lives under a system where they have even less incentive to take care of themselves??? Right now at least there is a financial incentive to not be a slob and people still treat themselves like shite. When the Dems start giving out diabetes meds and bypass surgeries like candy guess who has even less incentive to take care of themselves..
Posted on 4/25/21 at 12:16 pm to olemissfan26
They would find a way to put affirmative action into health care.
Posted on 4/25/21 at 1:10 pm to Powerman
50 is insane. Maybe 62 and lower full retirement from 67 1/2 to 62 at double current payments.
Posted on 4/25/21 at 1:19 pm to olemissfan26
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Dems will 100% weaponize the healthcare system the same way they’ve weaponized every branch of government they can get their hands on.
Good point. Imagine the level of control they'd gain through healthcare.
Posted on 4/25/21 at 1:30 pm to Powerman
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Right now, a 60-year-old with an annual income of $51,000 — which is a little more than four times the poverty level — would have to pay a premium of $4,420 a year for a silver health plan on the Obamacare exchanges, according to the Kaiser Family Foundation.
That silver plan must suck, or they're lying about it. Soon to be retirees and recent retirees I know are looking at $16,800 for less coverage than they have employed. $1,400 per month.
Posted on 4/25/21 at 1:34 pm to dawgfan24348
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Nah we're far better off letting the insurance companies frick us over and tell us what doctors we can and can't go to
I'm thinking it would be more like a 3 way DP with the insurance company - the citizen - and the government.
Insurance owns congress, that's the problem.
Posted on 4/25/21 at 1:40 pm to Colonel Flagg
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People always confuse/manipulate the terms health insurance with healthcare
I agree with you. Unfortunately most people would go bankrupt paying medical bills if it were not for insurance.
I personally think if the government wanted to improve care they would give everyone a free annual physical including lab work to everybody. That would catch so much stuff in its early stages when it’s treatable. We pay specialists too much in this country and primary care docs too little. Primary Care docs can catch a lot of stuff before it gets bad.
Posted on 4/25/21 at 1:45 pm to dawgfan24348
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Total fear mongering from the right, no actual argument to all the evidence of it working elsewhere so let's just spew hypotheticals and pass them off as facts
How about morbid obesity rate in this country? That objective enough for you?
Posted on 4/25/21 at 1:49 pm to dawgfan24348
quote:It's not ignored at all. Smart people see the NHS courts ruling to terminate health care for citizens and the months long wait list for appointments and surgeries and rightfully think to hell with that.
Ignore every other first world country using some form of it.
If you have a problem with your insurance restricting coverage to certain providers then you'll really get a kick out of the government denying treatment outright.
Posted on 4/25/21 at 1:49 pm to Auburn80
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Primary Care docs can catch a lot of stuff before it gets bad.
They DO catch a lot of stuff. But they can’t force the person to make the changes they recommend. Gotta remember this is the same country that had to be shut down to tell people to stay home if sick and to wash their hands.
Posted on 4/25/21 at 1:50 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
quote:we need to worry less about spending and worry more about taking care of people
I’m not aware of a single nation in the world that has successfully reduced health spending
Posted on 4/25/21 at 1:54 pm to chalmetteowl
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we need to worry less about spending and worry more about taking care of people
Spoken like someone on government disability
Posted on 4/25/21 at 2:51 pm to Powerman
I swear the only people worse than pro athletes when it comes to handling money are the bastards we send to congress to represent us.
Posted on 4/25/21 at 4:32 pm to chalmetteowl
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we need to worry less about spending and worry more about taking care of people
Lol
You freaks are free to do that at any point without making mommy gov do it for you.
You bunch of weak pussies never do shite without mommy.
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