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re: Dash cam video of Philando Castile killing
Posted on 6/20/17 at 5:16 pm to the808bass
Posted on 6/20/17 at 5:16 pm to the808bass
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No. The police officer said he didn't even know where the gun was. So he didn't know if Castile was going for
To reach that conclusion, you'd have to ignore the rest of his statement where he then describes the moment he saw it.
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Posted on 6/20/17 at 5:16 pm to kingbob
Fuuck that cop. He asked for his license and registration.
The guy tells him he has a concealed gun--THAT IS WHAT THE LAW DEMANDS. So, he was obeying the law. The guy was caught in a catch-22--he either reaches for his license in his wallet or puts his hands where he can see them and wait for the cop to calm the living fuuk down.
Why would he tell him he has a gun to then shoot him
Hey officer, I got this gun that is concealed and I know that there is another officer on my right and wish to brand it and shoot you to only get shot by the cop on my right.
Brilliant!!!
Lesson here is that treat cops like you do any violent criminal. Do exactly as they say and your chances of survival is pretty good. Make one error and it could cost you your life.
The guy tells him he has a concealed gun--THAT IS WHAT THE LAW DEMANDS. So, he was obeying the law. The guy was caught in a catch-22--he either reaches for his license in his wallet or puts his hands where he can see them and wait for the cop to calm the living fuuk down.
Why would he tell him he has a gun to then shoot him
Hey officer, I got this gun that is concealed and I know that there is another officer on my right and wish to brand it and shoot you to only get shot by the cop on my right.
Brilliant!!!
Lesson here is that treat cops like you do any violent criminal. Do exactly as they say and your chances of survival is pretty good. Make one error and it could cost you your life.
Posted on 6/20/17 at 5:17 pm to StrongSafety
Okay. Don't pull it out. Don't pull it out.
Posted on 6/20/17 at 5:18 pm to StrongSafety
did he reach for a gun?
Posted on 6/20/17 at 5:19 pm to troyt37
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That officers first duty is to stay alive.
Way to pull this out of your arse.
Posted on 6/20/17 at 5:19 pm to Willie Stroker
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Is there something about the statement you quoted that is of evidentiary value to contradict the jury's decision?
Who knows why the jury ruled the way they did. Maybe they thought he wasn't legally justified but enacted some jury nullification because they didn't believe it was a crime. We don't know because we weren't in the jury room.
All I am saying is to me that statement tells me he didn't know where the gun was and got scared when he was reaching even though he never saw anything.
My point is to ask the question whether being scared of something you can't see is enough to have a reasonable fear of your life. The jury ultimately said it was. I am not sure I would have agreed with them.
Posted on 6/20/17 at 5:19 pm to kingbob
Complete bullshite. How can you even tell?
You guys are so pro-police. this is basically a mob hit.
You guys are so pro-police. this is basically a mob hit.
Posted on 6/20/17 at 5:19 pm to Pax Regis
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You do realize the gun was in the pocket that Philando was reaching for right? That was conclusively established. You don't get to rewrite history to suit your narrative.
You do realize the officer admitted he had no idea where the gun was, right? You don't get to rewrite history to suit your narrative.
Posted on 6/20/17 at 5:19 pm to Wolfhound45
Heh. Innuendo
Posted on 6/20/17 at 5:19 pm to Wolfhound45
The cop obviously thought he was reaching for his weapon when he was likely reaching for his wallet.
1) Cop should have given more clear instructions such as "Keep both hands on the steering wheel"
and
2) Castile should have immediately stopped moving when the cop started yelling.
Sickening that a probable misunderstanding cost a man his life.
1) Cop should have given more clear instructions such as "Keep both hands on the steering wheel"
and
2) Castile should have immediately stopped moving when the cop started yelling.
Sickening that a probable misunderstanding cost a man his life.
This post was edited on 6/20/17 at 5:24 pm
Posted on 6/20/17 at 5:20 pm to NYNolaguy1
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Posted on 6/20/17 at 5:20 pm to NYNolaguy1
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Only she was talking about if I got held up by things trying to rob me.
I've seen where cops take liberties with citizen rights even when the citizen is compliant. I understand police have a rough job that is sometimes thankless, but I have seen where far too many of them think that a badge allows them to reinterpret what civil rights are....irrespective of the ethnic background of the citizen
Posted on 6/20/17 at 5:21 pm to reo45
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THAT IS WHAT THE LAW DEMANDS.
No, it isn't.
Posted on 6/20/17 at 5:21 pm to troyt37
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Until that gun is in view, or secured, the officers lives are in imminent danger
Is that what they teach you at cop academy?
Posted on 6/20/17 at 5:21 pm to the808bass
You cherry picked a quote. He saw it later. Also it was discovered in his pocket.
Please go frick yourself.
Please go frick yourself.
Posted on 6/20/17 at 5:22 pm to troyt37
quote:
That officers first duty is to stay alive.
To protect and uphold the Constitution...
Posted on 6/20/17 at 5:22 pm to Pax Regis
This shite never happened in the 60s and 70s.
Wonder why?
Wonder why?
Posted on 6/20/17 at 5:22 pm to Eric Nies Grind Time
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The reports from Minnesota are troubling and must be thoroughly investigated. In the meantime, it is important for the NRA not to comment while the investigation is ongoing. Rest assured, the NRA will have more to say once all the facts are known,
Posted on 6/20/17 at 5:23 pm to troyt37
quote:exactly some of these idiots in this board cannot comprehend what goes on in situations like this. The officer broke NO LAW and every thing he did was justified.
It doesn't matter if he was reaching for his gun. The cop can't have him reaching, period, until he knows where the gun is, and that he and his partner are in no danger from it. Dude can't be reaching for his wallet, his comb, his cigarette lighter, or to scratch his arse.
Until that gun is in view, or secured, the officers lives are in imminent danger, and they will act accordingly, as this video attests. People don't like it, frick them. That officers first duty is to stay alive.
This post was edited on 6/20/17 at 5:24 pm
Posted on 6/20/17 at 5:23 pm to Errerrerrwere
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This shite never happened in the 60s and 70s. Wonder why?
It happened all the time. There just weren't recordings of it.
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