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re: Correct grammar be like racist
Posted on 7/26/20 at 1:48 pm to ShortyRob
Posted on 7/26/20 at 1:48 pm to ShortyRob
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You might be able to interpret that paragraph the way you are if it didn't fall in the rest of that radical leftist diatribe. Within the diatribe there is simply no way to conclude your interpretation is correct
You can find no department within the humanities acting in a way that increases learning and functioning at a state school in our times. Anytime it appears that they are, you just haven’t read closely enough.
Posted on 7/26/20 at 1:49 pm to the808bass
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They view “standard grammar” as another power structure constructed by the privileged. And that standard grammar keeps people without power from having their voices represented and heard. Their response isn’t to ignore grammar that isn’t privileged. It’s to affirm it and say “we are focusing on grammar now more than ever.” But it’s not a constructionist focus. It’s a deconstructionist focus.
By the tone of the rest of the letter, the why of what they're doing may be what you're describing. But the what is that she needs her students to know how to properly construct and punctuate a sentence.
Posted on 7/26/20 at 1:51 pm to longwayfromLA
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But the what is that she needs her students to know how to properly construct and punctuate a sentence.
That’s what you want her to say. It’s not at all what she’s saying. I think we both understand each other’s position on this. Thanks.
Posted on 7/26/20 at 1:52 pm to the808bass
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That’s what you want her to say. It’s not at all what she’s saying. I think we both understand each other’s position on this. Thanks.
Fair enough. Till next time.
Posted on 7/26/20 at 1:54 pm to the808bass
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You can find no department within the humanities acting in a way that increases learning and functioning at a state school in our times. Anytime it appears that they are, you just haven’t read closely enough
Yeah. It's hard to read 2000 words of everything is racist and then believe that one paragraph inside the two thousand words is designed to make blacks work harder. It strains credulity
Posted on 7/26/20 at 2:03 pm to longwayfromLA
quote:lol
So in addition to her words being clear the first, she has again re-emphasized that she is not removing grammatical standards but rather raising them
Man you haven't been around academic doublespeak very much have you?
quote:"in the aggregate" here is a giant flashing red beacon that you really should spot.
"the effort will result in “more attention to grammar in the aggregate, not less.
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This approach challenges the familiar dogma that writing instruction should limit emphasis on grammar/sentence-level issues so as to not put students from multilingual, non-standard "academic" English backgrounds at a disadvantage
It's fun when English writers Do Us the courtesy of properly punctuating because it's a giveaway. She did not put the word academic in quotes up there for no reason.
So now I will Define the whole paragraph for you that you linked
They are going to make sure they teach all of the kids about the many different ways of writing to include the "academic" way
They're going to teach the kids that prior Dogma that said there was only really one way to write is colonization of the language
When she says they are going to focus on grammar in the aggregate........ repeat in the aggregate........ what she is saying is, "hey we are going to make sure they write correctly within the new paradigm we will be teaching"
This is as opposed to the so-called old dog, which simply said you had to let black kids slide
It's wordsmithing. She's basically saying " Dogma used to say that we had to let the black kids slide and not write correctly. But now we are going to focus on critical grammar which eliminates the idea that there is a single correct way to do it in the first place"
This will allow us to focus on even more "grammar in the aggregate"
This post was edited on 7/26/20 at 2:06 pm
Posted on 7/26/20 at 2:43 pm to the808bass
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It’s a deconstructionist focus.
The Ivory Tower has been deconstructed into an Ivory Tower of Babel.
Posted on 7/26/20 at 2:55 pm to FooManChoo
Postmodernism is an absolute cancer which allows their entire ideology to exist. Truly a cancer to reasoning, intelligence, and truth
Posted on 7/26/20 at 3:06 pm to Zach
quote:It's the fricking English language.
decolonizing the Writing Center
How obvious is it that the left is under total control of enemies of the West, using blacks as a way of destroying our society.
Always lowering the bar for them. Always lowering the standards, and we see what it has produced over the last few decades. And then the same people who lobby for this shite make fun of us for being stupid Americans, having been dumbed down by their practices.
This is not going to improve anything, and it certainly isn't going to help blacks. It just caters to their lowest common denominator and dumb down the entire country, which is the intent.
quote:No, it's really just blacks, and it's not a system designed to hamper them. Quite the opposite, and they aren't doing themselves any favors falling for this shite. The worst among them is being encouraged, and it's not in any way for their benefit.
systemic inequities facing black, indigenous, and people of color.”
Posted on 7/26/20 at 3:28 pm to Zach
Yes! Correct grammar also makes people anti-cajun.
Met an old white cajun guy selling watermelons a while ago. I just wanted to buy a watermelon. But, cajun dude kept trying to make small talk. I couldn't understand what he was saying. After the 5th time I said "excuse me? " and had him repeat himself, I just gave up. I let him keep the change, and left in defeat.
Met an old white cajun guy selling watermelons a while ago. I just wanted to buy a watermelon. But, cajun dude kept trying to make small talk. I couldn't understand what he was saying. After the 5th time I said "excuse me? " and had him repeat himself, I just gave up. I let him keep the change, and left in defeat.
Posted on 7/26/20 at 3:33 pm to Plx1776
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Met an old white cajun guy selling watermelons a while ago. I just wanted to buy a watermelon. But, cajun dude kept trying to make small talk. I couldn't understand what he was saying. After the 5th time I said "excuse me? " and had him repeat himself, I just gave up. I let him keep the change, and left in defeat.
Well, that's not my cousin. I can't understand anything he says but he grows sugar cane, not watermelons.
Posted on 7/26/20 at 5:37 pm to Zach
I don't see anything wrong with they're trying to do.
Posted on 7/26/20 at 6:08 pm to Zach
I guess this means "aks" him, or "ax" him means the same thing as "ask" him? I hope whites who are used to saying "ask" him, aren't called racist for not changing to "aks" him.
Posted on 7/26/20 at 6:41 pm to carguymatt
quote:Wut dafuk u talkin' bout, Willis?
I guess this means "aks" him, or "ax" him means the same thing as "ask" him? I hope whites who are used to saying "ask" him, aren't called racist for not changing to "aks" him.
Posted on 7/26/20 at 6:43 pm to blueboy
Everytime this subject comes up I always point out the same thing. Blacks score lower on standardized tests in English and verbal sections and first-generation Mexican immigrant students do. Do people realize how basically impossible that is? Nothing short of doing it on purpose can't even explain it. As a group you simply have to hate education
Posted on 7/26/20 at 7:03 pm to ShortyRob
quote:Hell, they do worse than African immigrants.
Blacks score lower on standardized tests in English and verbal sections and first-generation Mexican immigrant students do. D
Posted on 7/26/20 at 7:07 pm to Taxing Authority
“Hell, they do worse than African immigrants.“
Siiit, look at dat ole lion huntin arse dude, pooo he ain’t even got no shoes.
A+ Rutgers English
Siiit, look at dat ole lion huntin arse dude, pooo he ain’t even got no shoes.
A+ Rutgers English
This post was edited on 7/26/20 at 7:09 pm
Posted on 7/26/20 at 7:10 pm to Taxing Authority
So my question is... why not apply this to foreign language courses at the college level? Why do we have to conjugate french verbs? Couldn’t we just ignore masculine and feminine modifiers, since english doesn’t have that? German would be waaaay easier without Der, Das, and Die. Just make everything Das. Like english. Isn’t that how german should be taught to americans?
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