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re: Colonial Pipeline executives reportedly paid hackers nearly $5 Million in ransom money
Posted on 5/13/21 at 11:22 am to cwill
Posted on 5/13/21 at 11:22 am to cwill
quote:
Are you saying they government should have given Colonial the money (your tax money) to pay the ransom?
I'm saying an attack on America's energy infrastructure is an act of war and should be treated as such. No ransom should be paid. The Biden administration responded from a place of cowardice, said it was an issue for a private company to handle and let an American company be extorted for Ransom while incentivizing these attacks.
Even if this was a group of actors unaffiliated with any state group, you can damn well guarantee adversarial nations are watching how Biden responded to this and it wasn't forceful in anyway. Hes a pussy.
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Posted on 5/13/21 at 11:26 am to Lsuhoohoo
Pretty much.
Trump, or most other competent presidents, would have sent the FBI, NSA, and half a dozen other alphabet agencies to find these assholes and/or fix the system.
Biden? “That’s a private industry issue.”
Trump, or most other competent presidents, would have sent the FBI, NSA, and half a dozen other alphabet agencies to find these assholes and/or fix the system.
Biden? “That’s a private industry issue.”
Posted on 5/13/21 at 11:28 am to RollTide1987
All they've done is embolden these hackers and others that they can get a payday for these kinds of attacks.
Posted on 5/13/21 at 11:30 am to RollTide1987
- Company said they weren't going to pay the ransom just a few days ago.
- Ransom was only $5 million.
- The pipeline was always operational, and the only thing corrupted were the billing files - meaning Colonial Pipeline elected not to pump the oil.
Something isn't adding up here.
- Ransom was only $5 million.
- The pipeline was always operational, and the only thing corrupted were the billing files - meaning Colonial Pipeline elected not to pump the oil.
Something isn't adding up here.
Posted on 5/13/21 at 11:33 am to cwill
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So they're going to keep happening.
What if we did something to the hackers? Like arrest them if they're U.S. citizens or use *ahem* "other" options if they are both located internationally and foreign citizens?
Would they keep happening then?
Posted on 5/13/21 at 11:33 am to RollTide1987
This will happen often now
Posted on 5/13/21 at 11:34 am to Cs
quote:
- The pipeline was always operational, and the only thing corrupted were the billing files - meaning Colonial Pipeline elected not to pump the oil.
Something isn't adding up here.
Even the timing was sketchy. I feel this was a trial balloon/dry run/rehearsal for some bigger interruption on the horizon.
Posted on 5/13/21 at 11:35 am to RollTide1987
It is honestly pretty wild to think how easily all of society could come screeching to a halt because of something as simple as thig
Better be prepared baws
Better be prepared baws
Posted on 5/13/21 at 11:37 am to RollTide1987
Pedo Joe probably gave them the money from his Hamas/Iran stash
Posted on 5/13/21 at 11:38 am to Ace Midnight
quote:Agreed, but...is there really a shortage of hacks?
Do they want to guarantee more hacks in the future?
Because this is how you guarantee more hacks in the future.
Posted on 5/13/21 at 11:41 am to Oates Mustache
quote:I don't see much difference in this and our govt sending pallets of money to countries if they'll promise to not develop nuclear weapons.
That just emboldens them to do more. I wonder what their next large target will be.
Posted on 5/13/21 at 11:41 am to Ace Midnight
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Like arrest them if they're U.S. citizens
They're not.
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or use *ahem* "other" options if they are both located internationally and foreign citizens?
Based on what I've read they're in country(ies) where I don't think we can operate that freely, but who knows. I also read that the group behind this only intended and did in fact lock up the Colonial back-office. They did not want to create an international scene...probably because they didn't want to incur the wrath. It was Colonial acting in an, understandable, abundance of caution that elected to shut-in ops.
Posted on 5/13/21 at 11:43 am to Hamma1122
quote:
This will happen often now
It's already happening often, but you never hear about it because it doesn't usually have as visible an impact.
Posted on 5/13/21 at 11:44 am to cwill
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Based on what I've read they're in country(ies) where I don't think we can operate that freely, but who knows
If we have accurate targeting information, we can deliver ordnance to any spot on the planet.
So, the next question would be about political will. I get that no one wants to authorize a strike if Hacker A freezes bank account of Corporation B, but an assault on the gasoline supply of the United States is a national security threat.
Maybe they should draw the a-hole card and be made examples of?
Posted on 5/13/21 at 11:44 am to jptiger2009
You're a fricking moron. Hunter says hold my beer and crack pipe.
Idiot.
Idiot.
Posted on 5/13/21 at 11:45 am to Lsuhoohoo
quote:
I'm saying an attack on America's energy infrastructure is an act of war and should be treated as such. No ransom should be paid. The Biden administration responded from a place of cowardice, said it was an issue for a private company to handle and let an American company be extorted for Ransom while incentivizing these attacks.
So go with a long term gas shortage through basically 1/3 of the country rather than pay the ransom and work in the background to get the criminals or do something about improving internet security around industries that can impact national security?
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Even if this was a group of actors unaffiliated with any state group, you can damn well guarantee adversarial nations are watching how Biden responded to this and it wasn't forceful in anyway. Hes a pussy.
You don't think there would be a significantly different response if another nation did this?
Posted on 5/13/21 at 11:46 am to cwill
I’m absolutely shocked that your little bitch arse is in here playing contrarian and defending Biden
Absolutely shocked
Absolutely shocked
Posted on 5/13/21 at 11:48 am to Ace Midnight
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If we have accurate targeting information, we can deliver ordnance to any spot on the planet.
So we're just going to drop ordinance into the middle of an Eastern European nation - no issues?
quote:
Maybe they should draw the a-hole card and be made examples of?
I hope, but I think it would end up being something much more cold war style cloak and dagger "apprehension" than blunt force military...and that takes time.
This post was edited on 5/13/21 at 11:49 am
Posted on 5/13/21 at 11:51 am to cwill
quote:
It's already happening often, but you never hear about it because it doesn't usually have as visible an impact.
Do you think choosing something with such an obvious visible impact was just happenstance or deliberate?
Posted on 5/13/21 at 11:54 am to cwill
quote:
So we're just going to drop ordinance into the middle of an Eastern European nation - no issues?
Well, if that's where they're at, it is a non-hostile nation. Interpol or whatever might be able to make an apprehension.
I thought you were suggesting it might be in relatively hostile areas.
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