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Churchhill’s 1899 book The River War
Posted on 8/15/26 at 9:00 am
Posted on 8/15/26 at 9:00 am
In it he writes about Islam.
He wrote in one section:
“Besides the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog, there is this fearful fatalistic apathy.”
“Hydrophobia” was the contemporary term for rabies.
The larger passage begins:
“How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism lays on its votaries!”
He then sharply criticized what he regarded as religious fanaticism and social stagnation, eventually writing:
“No stronger retrograde force exists in the world.”
He also described Islam (“Mohammedanism,” in the terminology of his era) as a “militant and proselytizing faith.”
So to paraphrase what he said into today’s more modern observation, essentially what Churchill said was ‘Radical Islam is the spiritual equivalent of rabies in a dog.’
He wrote in one section:
“Besides the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog, there is this fearful fatalistic apathy.”
“Hydrophobia” was the contemporary term for rabies.
The larger passage begins:
“How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism lays on its votaries!”
He then sharply criticized what he regarded as religious fanaticism and social stagnation, eventually writing:
“No stronger retrograde force exists in the world.”
He also described Islam (“Mohammedanism,” in the terminology of his era) as a “militant and proselytizing faith.”
So to paraphrase what he said into today’s more modern observation, essentially what Churchill said was ‘Radical Islam is the spiritual equivalent of rabies in a dog.’
Posted on 8/15/26 at 9:01 am to Geekboy
Churchill is the greatest Englishman that ever lived.
Posted on 8/15/26 at 9:01 am to Geekboy
He has some hot takes in that book. Things you could never say today, about Islam, about Africa, Africans, etc.
Posted on 8/15/26 at 9:07 am to ClientNumber9
quote:I think being half American helped.
Churchill is the greatest Englishman that ever lived.
Posted on 8/15/26 at 9:12 am to Geekboy
Churchill saw what Thomas Jefferson saw when dealing with the Barbary Pirates.
Islam is not compatible with the West.
Wasn't during the Crusades. Not 200 yrs ago, not 100 yrs ago, still not today .
WHY AREN'T WE LISTENING??
Islam is not compatible with the West.
Wasn't during the Crusades. Not 200 yrs ago, not 100 yrs ago, still not today .
WHY AREN'T WE LISTENING??
Posted on 8/15/26 at 9:13 am to ClientNumber9
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Churchill is the greatest Englishman that ever lived.
And yet reviled on these boards a year ago. I'm convinced most people are complete blithering idiots.
Posted on 8/15/26 at 9:13 am to Geekboy
his book must be banned these days
Posted on 8/15/26 at 9:15 am to coolpapaboze
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I think being half American helped.
Damn sure didn't hurt.
His book set: History of the English-Speaking Peoples should be required reading for Anglos everywhere.
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Churchill is the greatest Englishman that ever lived.
Easily. Would have been considered one of the greatest American Presidents if he'd been American and a President.
Churchill was not a conservative really in his time but yet more conservative than most American Republicans call themselves now.
This post was edited on 8/15/26 at 9:18 am
Posted on 8/15/26 at 10:51 am to Geekboy
Churchill was right, as per usual.
Posted on 8/15/26 at 11:05 am to Geekboy
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religious fanaticism and social stagnation
Prior to Islam, the Mideast was a place of innovation. Then it was frozen in time.
Posted on 8/15/26 at 11:07 am to Geekboy
First downvote.
Islam is just as peaceful/strange/unbelievable a religion as Judaism, Christianity, Buddhism, etc.
It’s all in the interpretation.
Islam is just as peaceful/strange/unbelievable a religion as Judaism, Christianity, Buddhism, etc.
It’s all in the interpretation.
Posted on 8/15/26 at 11:07 am to Auburn1968
They actually invented Algebra and had fantastic arts before the zealots shut it down for idolatry.
Posted on 8/15/26 at 11:08 am to RFK
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Islam is just as peaceful/strange/unbelievable a religion as Judaism, Christianity, Buddhism, etc.
Don't think so.
How many Mohammedeans in the last 100 years have done anything truly good for all of humanity?
This post was edited on 8/15/26 at 11:17 am
Posted on 8/15/26 at 11:12 am to RFK
quote:
SouthEasternKaiju
quote:
WHY AREN'T WE LISTENING??
quote:
RFK
quote:
Islam is just as peaceful/strange/unbelievable a religion as Judaism, Christianity, Buddhism, etc. It’s all in the interpretation.
1/2 the country thinks like that idiot
Posted on 8/15/26 at 11:15 am to theballguy
He could move the world when he would speak. Once he was not re-elected Britain lost all influence it once had.
Orange man can do the same when he speaks, but he is no Churchill.
Orange man can do the same when he speaks, but he is no Churchill.
Posted on 8/15/26 at 11:17 am to ClientNumber9
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Churchill is the greatest Englishman that ever lived.
One of the greatest. There have been quite a few including Isaac Newton, William Shakespeare, Horatio Nelson, Arthur Wellesly (Duke of Wellington) and Charles Darwin.
Posted on 8/15/26 at 11:18 am to ClientNumber9
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Churchill is the greatest Englishman that ever lived.
He was a drunk supported financially by his handlers. But you're right, the standards regarding the English are quite low.
Posted on 8/15/26 at 11:22 am to RFK
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Islam is just as peaceful a religion as Judaism, Christianity, Buddhism, etc.
How is this guy getting more retarded as the days go by?
Posted on 8/15/26 at 12:00 pm to Geekboy
Posted on 8/15/26 at 12:28 pm to uggabugga
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Excellent book, read it for free here
Digging in now, I love the flow of his prose- easy reading.
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