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Churchhill’s 1899 book The River War

Posted on 8/15/26 at 9:00 am
Posted by Geekboy
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Posted on 8/15/26 at 9:00 am
In it he writes about Islam.

He wrote in one section:

“Besides the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog, there is this fearful fatalistic apathy.”

“Hydrophobia” was the contemporary term for rabies.

The larger passage begins:

“How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism lays on its votaries!”

He then sharply criticized what he regarded as religious fanaticism and social stagnation, eventually writing:

“No stronger retrograde force exists in the world.”

He also described Islam (“Mohammedanism,” in the terminology of his era) as a “militant and proselytizing faith.”

So to paraphrase what he said into today’s more modern observation, essentially what Churchill said was ‘Radical Islam is the spiritual equivalent of rabies in a dog.’
Posted by ClientNumber9
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Posted on 8/15/26 at 9:01 am to
Churchill is the greatest Englishman that ever lived.
Posted by coolpapaboze
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Posted on 8/15/26 at 9:01 am to
He has some hot takes in that book. Things you could never say today, about Islam, about Africa, Africans, etc.
Posted by coolpapaboze
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Posted on 8/15/26 at 9:07 am to
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Churchill is the greatest Englishman that ever lived.
I think being half American helped.
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
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Posted on 8/15/26 at 9:12 am to
Churchill saw what Thomas Jefferson saw when dealing with the Barbary Pirates.

Islam is not compatible with the West.

Wasn't during the Crusades. Not 200 yrs ago, not 100 yrs ago, still not today .

WHY AREN'T WE LISTENING??
Posted by theballguy
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Posted on 8/15/26 at 9:13 am to
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Churchill is the greatest Englishman that ever lived.



And yet reviled on these boards a year ago. I'm convinced most people are complete blithering idiots.
Posted by TrueTiger
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Posted on 8/15/26 at 9:13 am to
his book must be banned these days
Posted by theballguy
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Posted on 8/15/26 at 9:15 am to
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I think being half American helped.



Damn sure didn't hurt.

His book set: History of the English-Speaking Peoples should be required reading for Anglos everywhere.

quote:

Churchill is the greatest Englishman that ever lived.


Easily. Would have been considered one of the greatest American Presidents if he'd been American and a President.

Churchill was not a conservative really in his time but yet more conservative than most American Republicans call themselves now.
This post was edited on 8/15/26 at 9:18 am
Posted by SloaneRanger
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Posted on 8/15/26 at 10:51 am to
Churchill was right, as per usual.
Posted by Auburn1968
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Posted on 8/15/26 at 11:05 am to
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religious fanaticism and social stagnation


Prior to Islam, the Mideast was a place of innovation. Then it was frozen in time.
Posted by RFK
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Posted on 8/15/26 at 11:07 am to
First downvote.

Islam is just as peaceful/strange/unbelievable a religion as Judaism, Christianity, Buddhism, etc.

It’s all in the interpretation.
Posted by theballguy
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Posted on 8/15/26 at 11:07 am to
They actually invented Algebra and had fantastic arts before the zealots shut it down for idolatry.
Posted by theballguy
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Posted on 8/15/26 at 11:08 am to
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Islam is just as peaceful/strange/unbelievable a religion as Judaism, Christianity, Buddhism, etc.



Don't think so.

How many Mohammedeans in the last 100 years have done anything truly good for all of humanity?
This post was edited on 8/15/26 at 11:17 am
Posted by TexasForever81
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Posted on 8/15/26 at 11:12 am to
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SouthEasternKaiju

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WHY AREN'T WE LISTENING??


quote:

RFK

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Islam is just as peaceful/strange/unbelievable a religion as Judaism, Christianity, Buddhism, etc. It’s all in the interpretation.



1/2 the country thinks like that idiot



Posted by Churchill
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Posted on 8/15/26 at 11:15 am to
He could move the world when he would speak. Once he was not re-elected Britain lost all influence it once had.

Orange man can do the same when he speaks, but he is no Churchill.
Posted by Penrod
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Posted on 8/15/26 at 11:17 am to
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Churchill is the greatest Englishman that ever lived.

One of the greatest. There have been quite a few including Isaac Newton, William Shakespeare, Horatio Nelson, Arthur Wellesly (Duke of Wellington) and Charles Darwin.
Posted by Timeoday
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Posted on 8/15/26 at 11:18 am to
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Churchill is the greatest Englishman that ever lived.


He was a drunk supported financially by his handlers. But you're right, the standards regarding the English are quite low.
Posted by djsdawg
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Posted on 8/15/26 at 11:22 am to
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Islam is just as peaceful a religion as Judaism, Christianity, Buddhism, etc.


How is this guy getting more retarded as the days go by?
Posted by uggabugga
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Posted on 8/15/26 at 12:00 pm to
Excellent book, read it for free here

LINK
Posted by SallysHuman
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Posted on 8/15/26 at 12:28 pm to
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Excellent book, read it for free here


Digging in now, I love the flow of his prose- easy reading.
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