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re: China is dumping US treasuries because they know Trump is watching the 10-year yield
Posted on 4/8/25 at 10:59 am to NC_Tigah
Posted on 4/8/25 at 10:59 am to NC_Tigah
When it comes to comparing military plans in battle and explaining to the American people what is being done to the economy? Yes, there’s a huge difference.
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Posted on 4/8/25 at 11:05 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:Of course he did. He had folks talking a Inchon-style beach assault. He had folks expressing great trepidation about difficulty of displacing the dug in Iraqi tanks. He had folks laminating the eventual inability to approach Baghdad from the air d/t its "impenetrable" air defenses.
Powell didn't have 3-5 generals going around promoting conflicting goals that cannot co-exist.
Posted on 4/8/25 at 11:06 am to CollegeFBRules
quote:What has Trump said regarding the economy?
explaining to the American people what is being done to the economy? Yes, there’s a huge difference.
Posted on 4/8/25 at 11:08 am to NC_Tigah
quote:
Of course he did. He had folks talking a Inchon-style beach assault. He had folks expressing great trepidation about difficulty of displacing the dug in Iraqi tanks. He had folks laminating the eventual inability to approach Baghdad from the air d/t its "impenetrable" air defenses.
Those are strategies, not goals.
Posted on 4/8/25 at 11:09 am to KiwiHead
The problem with that is that China does not operate that way.
They knew their response ahead of time based on which direction the US government took.
They knew their response ahead of time based on which direction the US government took.
Posted on 4/8/25 at 11:10 am to NC_Tigah
quote:
What has Trump said regarding the economy?
Feel free to answer your own question.
Posted on 4/8/25 at 11:13 am to roadGator
Just FWIW, I highly suggest everyone watch the portion of the latest Allin podcast discussing the tariffs and issues with China. Their guest is Ben Shapiro and he really knocks it out of the park, but Freidberg has really in depth data/analysis about China thrown in.
Shapiro really summarized the difference in our system/outcomes and China's well. We succeed/dominate b/c we have everyone competing with everyone all the time and it breeds innovation and development. China succeeds because it has the ability to focus everyone on one goal (with its state-directed markets) and when they guess right, they dominate that area.
So within the context of this thread, it's kind of a game where if China's strategy (which is likely going to be narrowly focused) succeeds, it's going to really frick the US up bigly.
Shapiro really summarized the difference in our system/outcomes and China's well. We succeed/dominate b/c we have everyone competing with everyone all the time and it breeds innovation and development. China succeeds because it has the ability to focus everyone on one goal (with its state-directed markets) and when they guess right, they dominate that area.
So within the context of this thread, it's kind of a game where if China's strategy (which is likely going to be narrowly focused) succeeds, it's going to really frick the US up bigly.
This post was edited on 4/8/25 at 11:15 am
Posted on 4/8/25 at 11:14 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:Those were neither
Those are strategies, not goals.
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The
goal
was
Cut-It-Off-And-Kill-It !
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The actual strategy of flanking the Iraqis with a mechanized sweep through the desert was not revealed until after the fact.
Posted on 4/8/25 at 11:15 am to NC_Tigah
quote:
The
goal
was
Cut-It-Off-And-Kill-It !
And we don't know the goal with the tariff policies.
Posted on 4/8/25 at 11:18 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:Resetting the economic paradigm.
And we don't know the goal with the tariff policies.
Posted on 4/8/25 at 11:19 am to NC_Tigah
quote:
Resetting the economic paradigm.
WW III would do that.
Posted on 4/8/25 at 11:20 am to Flats
America falling down and China becoming the world hegemon would do that, too.
Glad we know what that means. May as well have said "Make America Great Again", as it would be more descriptive
Glad we know what that means. May as well have said "Make America Great Again", as it would be more descriptive
Posted on 4/8/25 at 11:33 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:
Shocking
Just curious, SF...do you think a Globalist World Government mechanism which subordinates heretofore sovereign Constitutional Republic Rights (God-given version) is either good, better than the disunified status quo or inevitable?
I have to go run my fish traps so it might be a while before I check this thread. Wish me luck, I'm hungry. And worried re Walmart tanking.
TIA.
Posted on 4/8/25 at 11:38 am to RCDfan1950
quote:
do you think a Globalist World Government mechanism which subordinates heretofore sovereign Constitutional Republic Rights (God-given version) is either good, better than the disunified status quo or inevitable?
None of your options.
It's an imaginary boogeyman that has no basis and a near 0.00% chance of even getting close to fruition in the future. In the 1 in 10T chance this happens, it would be bad, though, and worse than the current status quo.
Posted on 4/8/25 at 11:39 am to Flats
quote:That seemed to be the glideslope we were on prior to the inauguration.
WW III would do that
Ray Dalio, who is no Trump fan, had some insights about the paradigm shift this morning. Here's a snippet:
quote:
What we need to keep in mind is a larger and more important fact: we are witnessing a typical collapse of major monetary, political, and geopolitical orders. Such a collapse generally occurs only once in a lifetime, but it has happened many times in history; whenever similar unsustainable conditions arise, this collapse will come.
More specifically:
The monetary/economic order is collapsing because there is too much existing debt, the speed of new debt accumulation is too fast, and capital markets and the economy depend on this unsustainable massive debt for support. This debt is unsustainable due to severe imbalances—on one hand, debtors (like the U.S.) are heavily burdened by debt but continue to borrow to satisfy their excessive consumption because they are addicted to debt; on the other hand, creditors (like China) already hold too many debt assets and rely on exporting goods to these debtor countries (like the U.S.) to sustain their own economies. There is immense pressure to correct these imbalances in some form, and this correction will significantly change the monetary order.
LINK
Posted on 4/8/25 at 11:43 am to SlowFlowPro
We can give China the one finger salute anytime we want. China is nothing without our economy
Posted on 4/8/25 at 11:45 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:
America falling down and China becoming the world hegemon would do that, too. Glad we know what that means. May as well have said "Make America Great Again", as it would be more descriptive
So Trump's tariffs are going to make China the global hegemon? How will they do that? Also, how will we know when China becomes the global hegemon?
This post was edited on 4/8/25 at 11:48 am
Posted on 4/8/25 at 11:47 am to wdhalgren
quote:
So Trump's tariffs are going to make China the global hegemon?
Probably not, but you missed the point.
The question is, is China becoming the global hegemon a potential goal of "Resetting the economic paradigm."?
And the answer is yes.
Posted on 4/8/25 at 11:49 am to roadGator
Maybe, I'm not sure anyone here has the faintest idea as to how Xi thinks overall. He's had since 2013 to map out his strategy....and tactics.
Posted on 4/8/25 at 11:49 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:
The question is, is China becoming the global hegemon a potential goal of "Resetting the economic paradigm."? And the answer is yes.
Sorry, the poster you responded to seemed to be discussing tariffs. Do Trump's tariffs play a role in making China the global hegemon? I'm just wondering how, specifically, this transfer of power will happen. And what would be the benchmarks used to establish that it had taken place.
This post was edited on 4/8/25 at 11:53 am
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