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re: China is dumping US treasuries because they know Trump is watching the 10-year yield

Posted on 4/8/25 at 12:11 pm to
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299705 posts
Posted on 4/8/25 at 12:11 pm to
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Put your tampon in and stop bleeding all over the board you pussy.



Its y'alls vaunted "working class" who will suffer.

I guess we will really see if you people support them or if its just lip service.
Posted by LARancher1991
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2015
2247 posts
Posted on 4/8/25 at 12:13 pm to
Don't act like you aren't working class
Posted by lake chuck fan
Vinton
Member since Aug 2011
23800 posts
Posted on 4/8/25 at 12:13 pm to
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And we don't know the goal with the tariff policies


Its been explained over and over. Videos explaining this have been posted over and over.
I get you dont agree with what Trumps doing and are fearful of the possible outcomes, but I dont believe that you don't understand.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299705 posts
Posted on 4/8/25 at 12:14 pm to
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Don't act like you aren't working class


Its a mentality.

When you arent capable of self managing and improving your own circumstances, you beg for more government.

This is why MAGA loves Trump, he's gonna get them a raise.
Posted by Jbird
Shoot the tires out!
Member since Oct 2012
90619 posts
Posted on 4/8/25 at 12:15 pm to
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Don't act like you aren't working class

Guy cant afford a used Utv because muh tariffs tanked his "portfolio.

To the tune of 3500 dollars
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
13486 posts
Posted on 4/8/25 at 12:17 pm to
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Its been explained over and over. Videos explaining this have been posted over and over.
I get you dont agree with what Trumps doing and are fearful of the possible outcomes, but I dont believe that you don't understand.


Yeah, videos have been posted and statements have been made, and they are the equivalent of:

"We are engaging in this trade war to turn everything red. That's the goal. We want nothing but red."

"America will be so much more prosperous when everything in America is blue! That's what we're working for here!"

"Our early founding fathers knew that we wouldn't need income taxes if everything was green. We're going to restore that circumstance to the American people and before you know it, everything will be green!"

We just understand that everything can't be green, red, and blue at the same time. Thus, we're confused.

For some reason, ya'll do not understand that.
This post was edited on 4/8/25 at 12:21 pm
Posted by Loserman
Member since Sep 2007
23151 posts
Posted on 4/8/25 at 12:19 pm to
China once held close to 2 trillion in US Treasuries.

Now they are down to 750 billion
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
63357 posts
Posted on 4/8/25 at 12:23 pm to
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Its been explained over and over. Videos explaining this have been posted over and over.
Te problem, as the OP notes is that they are too many contradictions. At one time, the admin says”we going to fund the entire government on import tariffs” Another they claim we’re going to eliminate imports.

If you’re a Trump fan, you knod yes to both. Both sound nice. But both can’t be true. It’s double accounting. And likely, you’re being manipulated.

As Ayn Rand said (roughly) “when you a contradiction, always know at least one is a lie.”
This post was edited on 4/8/25 at 12:24 pm
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
63357 posts
Posted on 4/8/25 at 12:26 pm to
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China once held close to 2 trillion in US Treasuries.

Now they are down to 750 billion
Yeah. Given the size of debt it’s hard to think of selling $50B as ‘dumping’.

Given our situation, I’d be far more concerned with what people are buying from treasury than selling. (even given the relationship between them).
Posted by RedHog260
Member since Oct 2023
1017 posts
Posted on 4/8/25 at 12:27 pm to
How exactly did Trump start this? You must be a moron level retard to say that.

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Trump started this, what did he expect China to do? Say sorry? This shite is going to get ugly, and we are going to be the ones caught in the middle of all it.
Posted by thelawnwranglers
Member since Sep 2007
42332 posts
Posted on 4/8/25 at 12:29 pm to
Selling tbills hurts china so it's interesting
Posted by Earnest_P
Member since Aug 2021
5488 posts
Posted on 4/8/25 at 12:31 pm to
I knew as soon as I saw the 4chan post that this was likely. If somebody on 4chan can see the plan, why can’t China?
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
37564 posts
Posted on 4/8/25 at 12:32 pm to
But right now that is how they are acting. They want to see how reckless their opponent can be....or is it all an act? You could end up with US Navy as a card, meaning that Trump pulls the Navy back from Straits of Molocca and protecting China's flow of oil....and food
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
138937 posts
Posted on 4/8/25 at 12:36 pm to
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Teh US is so close to fiscal dominance it won't take much to push us over the edge. Not sure why we're helping them, tho
We'll see if real progress can be made on the budget this summer. That will be the tell.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
63357 posts
Posted on 4/8/25 at 12:39 pm to
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We'll see if real progress can be made on the budget this summer. That will be the tell.
Budget? I’d reckon a September CR “we had to do it!” is far more likely. In Dec they said “we’ll fight in March. In March they said “we’ll fight in September!”. I guess we’ll see.


I’d put the odds of substantial, meaningful spending cuts (DoD, SS Medicare) slightly below the odds of me motorboating Sydney Sweeney.
This post was edited on 4/8/25 at 12:44 pm
Posted by fwtex
Member since Nov 2019
3403 posts
Posted on 4/8/25 at 12:43 pm to
This is absolutely 4D chess being played by Trump. All the below are in play his tariff policy.

1. Level trade playing field.
2. Force Powell to lower interest rates.
3. Lower consumer spending to stop inflation.
4. Creat us jobs

Obama said he was going to fundamentally change the United States. Well, Trump is reversing all the political economic mismanagement going back to Roosevelt.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476837 posts
Posted on 4/8/25 at 12:47 pm to
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It's hard to deny that without defining what type of "reset of the economic paradigm" we're talking about.

And that, my friend, was the point.

Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476837 posts
Posted on 4/8/25 at 12:48 pm to
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Its been explained over and over.

No

4 to 5 different goals have been explained

Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476837 posts
Posted on 4/8/25 at 12:50 pm to
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We'll see if real progress can be made on the budget this summer


This chaotic tariff strategy has increased the likelihood that we will have to come to the table promoting subsidies with the next spending packages.

One of the main avenues promoted by this policy is protectionism for purported national security, which isn't a tariff portrayed policy and is 100% a subsidy policy. This in addition to the negative economic consequences that were likely to suffer screams that the population will be begging the populist for subsidies and handouts
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
138937 posts
Posted on 4/8/25 at 12:56 pm to
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the population will be begging the populist for subsidies and handouts
That's certainly possible. We'll see.
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