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re: China is dumping US treasuries because they know Trump is watching the 10-year yield

Posted on 4/8/25 at 2:45 pm to
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 4/8/25 at 2:45 pm to
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What production do you want to move to the US? We make cars and planes, produce corn, wheat, etc.
So if we can do those things, we can do more of those things. Right?

Manufacturing is only running at around 75% capacity.

The utilities sector had a capacity utilization rate of 71.1% in December 2024, significantly below its long-run average, indicating substantial underutilization. ?

The US semiconductor industry has ample extra capacity.

etc.
Posted by AGGIES
Member since Jul 2021
12329 posts
Posted on 4/8/25 at 2:47 pm to
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Can you quote and link that please


ROFL. What?

You’re not aware that Trump has said we have a bad trade deal with Canada?

Or are you unaware that Trump negotiated the deal?
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
37564 posts
Posted on 4/8/25 at 2:56 pm to
Importer already has business in US.
Exporter signs a non binding agreement with DJT
Exporter in China figures he waits out current admin, figures new guy in 2029 changes tariff.

Meanwhile importer goes out of business

Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
138940 posts
Posted on 4/8/25 at 3:04 pm to
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Tariff = tax....importer pays it.....passes on cost ....leading to increase of price of good from that country. Not hard to understand.
Except, that is not universally true, is it? IIRC, exporters offset 5–20% on average.

Posted by RohanGonzales
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Member since Apr 2024
10679 posts
Posted on 4/8/25 at 3:05 pm to
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Importer already has business in US.
Exporter signs a non binding agreement with DJT
Exporter in China figures he waits out current admin, figures new guy in 2029 changes tariff.

Meanwhile importer goes out of business


You figured that out, but nobody in the administration did.

fricking idiot
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
55560 posts
Posted on 4/8/25 at 3:13 pm to
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Witness

What can’t happen here, TA? What I said was absurd was the idea that making China hegemonic was the goal.

I also don’t believe it’s possible unless the USA simply folds with a stronger hand. I have long predicted the demise of China - I mean ever since Xi took over. I have long said that China will either liberalize and balkanize, or they will crack down and fail economically. It looks like the latter. Perhaps if the Democrats had won the last election the USA would have effectively ceded hegemony to an inferior country, but that ain’t happening now.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
98111 posts
Posted on 4/8/25 at 3:29 pm to
All that and no link to the direct quote
Posted by MizzouBS
Missouri
Member since Dec 2014
6884 posts
Posted on 4/8/25 at 3:50 pm to
China has $759 billion in Treasury securities.

If China cashes in all their Treasury securities it doesn’t really hurt that much. The US already has $36.5 trillion deficit. If all foreign countries called in their $8.5 trillion that would be a different story.

With a bear market brokerages are probably buying up guaranteed securities. Japan has over a $1 trillion in Treasury securities and they are probably buying up some of the securities China might be selling.
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
37341 posts
Posted on 4/8/25 at 6:18 pm to
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So if we can do those things, we can do more of those things. Right?

Manufacturing is only running at around 75% capacity.

The utilities sector had a capacity utilization rate of 71.1% in December 2024, significantly below its long-run average, indicating substantial underutilization. ?

The US semiconductor industry has ample extra capacity.
So you don't want to move manufacturing to the US. You just want manufacturing to run closer to capacity? So we should just make more cars and computer chips? Who is going to buy them and how would the tariffs wars help?
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