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Chief Justice John Roberts...You are now irrelevant

Posted on 10/27/20 at 9:13 am
Posted by deltaland
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Posted on 10/27/20 at 9:13 am
This post was edited on 10/27/20 at 10:12 am
Posted by Tiger985
Member since Nov 2006
6465 posts
Posted on 10/27/20 at 9:15 am to
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You are now irrelevant


He's probably thrilled.

Whoever has a hold on him doesn't anymore.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
42941 posts
Posted on 10/27/20 at 9:18 am to
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Whoever has a hold on him doesn't anymore.
Good Lord

If you look at his rulings from a jurisprudential perspective rather than an ideological one, they are almost uniformly-consistent.

You just want him to be ideological, so you create a Grishamesque fantasy/conspiracy to "explain" rulings that you do not like. All the while INSISTING that you do not want an ideological judge, but rather a Strict Constructionist.

Sad.
This post was edited on 10/27/20 at 9:20 am
Posted by MFn GIMP
Member since Feb 2011
19350 posts
Posted on 10/27/20 at 9:19 am to
Even better is if he votes in the minority then Thomas gets to assign who writes the majority opinion since he is the senior justice.
Posted by LuckyTiger
Someone's Alter
Member since Dec 2008
45292 posts
Posted on 10/27/20 at 9:21 am to
Not only does he have to create a new legal fiction for the upcoming Obamacare case but he has to recruit another justice to concur with him.

He’s got a lot to do.
Posted by Marciano1
Marksville, LA
Member since Jun 2009
18436 posts
Posted on 10/27/20 at 9:21 am to
He sided with the conservative justices on a Wisconsin vote ruling.
Posted by Bamafig
Member since Nov 2018
3154 posts
Posted on 10/27/20 at 9:21 am to
This.
I’m so glad he can’t limelight as the great savior of the Courts honor. He’s a self righteous prick. Now nobody cares how he votes or thinks.
Posted by Roll Tide Ravens
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2015
42611 posts
Posted on 10/27/20 at 9:22 am to
Shannon Bream on Fox News made an interesting point about Roberts last night. The addition of ACB to the Court may actually result in Roberts siding with the conservatives more than he would have before RGB passed. With ACB there, he can no longer be a swing vote in most cases where the vote is split along conservative/liberal lines. With his ability to be a swing vote gone, there is still a way that he can sort of have his say in the Court’s opinions: if he is in the majority, he gets to choose who writes the opinion for the majority. Thus, in the big, controversial cases he would be able to assign the opinion writing responsibility to himself. Writing the opinion in these cases gives him a lot of power to his interpret things as narrowly or as broadly as he wants, as long as he stay with the overall decision of the majority as to whether something is constitutional/unconstitutional. Now, his ability to do this would be somewhat limited because he would still need to get a majority of the justices to sign on to his opinion.
This post was edited on 10/27/20 at 9:27 am
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
21797 posts
Posted on 10/27/20 at 9:25 am to
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If you look at his rulings from a jurisprudential perspective rather than an ideological one, they are almost uniformly-consistent.



https://noqreport.com/2019/07/02/john-roberts-consistently-inconsistent/

How many articles on Roberts' inconsistency would you like to peruse?
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
42941 posts
Posted on 10/27/20 at 9:27 am to
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How many articles on Roberts' inconsistency would you like to peruse? ("NOQ Report")
Something from an outlet that is not teetering on the precipice of falling completely OFF the right edge of the political spectrum would be nice.
This post was edited on 10/27/20 at 9:28 am
Posted by lionward2014
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2015
11719 posts
Posted on 10/27/20 at 9:27 am to
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they are almost uniformly-consistent.


Outside of a few big cases, his voting record is almost completely in line with the conservatives wing of the court. I will never understand his logic in Sebelius however.

For a swing vote, he swings way more conservative than Kennedy did.

Not that I'm a huge fan, but it is a little disingenuous by people to make him out to be some huge hidden liberal when you actually look at a totality of his opinions and not just a select few.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
81653 posts
Posted on 10/27/20 at 9:28 am to
quote:

If you look at his rulings from a jurisprudential perspective rather than an ideological one, they are almost uniformly-consistent.

Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
422598 posts
Posted on 10/27/20 at 9:28 am to
quote:

If you look at his rulings from a jurisprudential perspective rather than an ideological one, they are almost uniformly-consistent.

he had 2 very big 180s this year on major cases, iirc
Posted by GeauxFightingTigers1
Member since Oct 2016
12574 posts
Posted on 10/27/20 at 9:30 am to
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hey are almost uniformly-consistent


Huh. That's not saying anything at all.

Honey stop.
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
21797 posts
Posted on 10/27/20 at 9:32 am to
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Something from an outlet that is not teetering on the precipice of falling completely OFF the right edge of the political spectrum would be nice.


Sure.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/07/27/john-roberts-strikes-again-conservatives-should-be-furious/

And besides your personal bloviating you've provided.......?

Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
21797 posts
Posted on 10/27/20 at 9:33 am to
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AlxTgr


Don't laugh, Hank takes his contrarian role quite seriously.
Posted by 93and99
Dayton , Oh / Allentown , Pa
Member since Dec 2018
14400 posts
Posted on 10/27/20 at 9:34 am to
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If you look at his rulings from a jurisprudential perspective rather than an ideological one, they are almost uniformly-consistent.



Are you serious?

He twisted the argument into their (Democrats) favor on the Obamacare individual mandate vote.

Democrats were calling it a fee, HE CHANGED it to a tax all on his own and then used the argument that the government is allowed to tax.

Did you miss that?
This post was edited on 10/27/20 at 9:36 am
Posted by ninthward
Boston, MA
Member since May 2007
20421 posts
Posted on 10/27/20 at 9:37 am to
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Something from an outlet that is not teetering on the precipice of falling completely OFF the right edge of the political spectrum would be nice.
Hey here is a thought why not link your own data?
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
42941 posts
Posted on 10/27/20 at 9:37 am to
Posted by PickupAutist
Member since Sep 2018
3022 posts
Posted on 10/27/20 at 9:37 am to
How can you say his rulings are uniformly-consistent when he flipped on the ACA between argument and the opinion after Obama dressed the Court down at a SOTU.
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