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re: Chief Justice John Roberts...You are now irrelevant

Posted on 10/27/20 at 9:39 am to
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
21883 posts
Posted on 10/27/20 at 9:39 am to
And besides your personal bloviating you've provided.......?
Posted by bogeypro
North Alabama
Member since Sep 2012
4052 posts
Posted on 10/27/20 at 9:40 am to
You're wasting your time. Aggiehank is a Democrat ... He will never attempt to see your viewpoint or concede that you might have a valid point.
This post was edited on 10/27/20 at 9:41 am
Posted by KCT
Psalm 23:5
Member since Feb 2010
38911 posts
Posted on 10/27/20 at 9:47 am to
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Chief Justice John Roberts


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You are now irrelevant



I partially agree. I would say that he's LESS RELEVANT. But look, Kavanaugh and even Gorsuch have both cast a couple of funky votes the past couple of years. Kavanaugh in particular seems to still act more like the "Bush guy" he always was instead of a true Trump patriot. You'd think Kavanaugh would've learned his lesson based on the way the Swamp treated him AND HIS FAMILY, but he still seems more ESTABLISHMENT than anything else.

AND, let's give ACB some time to show us how she's going to trend, too. I feel GREAT about her, but sometimes justices will surprise you a little bit. As an example, I assumed Kagan and Sotomayor would basically be twin robots, but Kagan has shown to be a much better Justice than the wise Latina.

The cause of upholding and saving the Constitution took a big step forward yesterday. But, I can't wait for Trump to nominate one more. If we get 6 solid justices (not counting Roberts, of course), then the great document created by our Founding Fathers should absolutely be safe.
Posted by arcalades
USA
Member since Feb 2014
19276 posts
Posted on 10/27/20 at 9:51 am to
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if he votes in the minority then Thomas gets to assign who writes the majority opinion since he is the senior justice.
he won't be siding with the minority for that very reason.
Posted by keks tadpole
Yellow Leaf Creek
Member since Feb 2017
7586 posts
Posted on 10/27/20 at 9:53 am to
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you create a Grishamesque fantasy/conspiracy to "explain" rulings that you do not like

Art imitates life, and lets not get into the plot line of The Pelican Brief.
Posted by BeefDawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
4747 posts
Posted on 10/27/20 at 9:55 am to
LOL, you know Hank has been searching for a credible article that proves he's "consistent", and he's probably pounding his fist on his desk because he can't find it.

Meanwhile, you provide 2 articles proving his "inconsistency", and all he can do is post some retarded pic and disappear in the ether, still patting himself on the back for his meager effort points he scored by simply arguing against his foes.
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
21883 posts
Posted on 10/27/20 at 10:02 am to
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You're wasting your time. Aggiehank is a Democrat .


I really don't think he is. But he does view himself as some sort of Thurston Howell/Buckley clone and therefore way too intelligent for this forum, so he's loathe to ever publicly agree with any sort of consensus view here. Even when there's one he agrees with he'll find some small aspect of it to argue with and ignore the main point. It's weird, but whatever.
Posted by PickupAutist
Member since Sep 2018
3022 posts
Posted on 10/27/20 at 10:11 am to
Cucks really like to fantasize they are the lone voice crying in the wilderness like some modern day Jeremiah. The more they are mocked, the more they are convinced of their righteousness. They get sort of a thrill from being spat on.
Posted by tonydtigr
Beautiful Downtown Glenn Springs,Tx
Member since Nov 2011
5129 posts
Posted on 10/27/20 at 10:18 am to
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How many articles on Roberts' inconsistency would you like to peruse? ("NOQ Report")
Something from an outlet that is not teetering on the precipice of falling completely OFF the right edge of the political spectrum would be nice.



Are you seriously waiting for CNN to report this?
Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
13355 posts
Posted on 10/27/20 at 10:21 am to
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If you look at his rulings from a jurisprudential perspective rather than an ideological one, they are almost uniformly-consistent.


And you’re full of shite, as usual. He saddled this country with Obamacare, knowing it was blatantly unconstitutional, letting democrats play the shell game of tax, fee, penalty, depending on who they were talking to. Ideology indeed.
Posted by boomtown143
Merica
Member since May 2019
6724 posts
Posted on 10/27/20 at 10:23 am to
2 more justices to go for TRUMP.

GLORIOUS!

Posted by Loup
Ferriday
Member since Apr 2019
11447 posts
Posted on 10/27/20 at 10:29 am to
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If you look at his rulings from a jurisprudential perspective rather than an ideological one, they are almost uniformly-consistent.

You just want him to be ideological, so you create a Grishamesque fantasy/conspiracy to "explain" rulings that you do not like. All the while INSISTING that you do not want an ideological judge, but rather a Strict Constructionist.


the talking heads on fox told me to be big mad at roberts, though.
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
21883 posts
Posted on 10/27/20 at 10:37 am to
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the talking heads on fox told me to be big mad at roberts, though.


If you needed them to tell you that after his Nevada decision you might be a moron.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
42941 posts
Posted on 10/27/20 at 10:51 am to
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And besides your personal bloviating you've provided
How about something from the same source you used, written by a reporter who is ALSO and attorney and understands the rulings. WaPo
quote:

It’s worth noting that Roberts’s episodic deviations from conservative orthodoxy have tended to involve laws and regulations — cases where Congress or the executive branch can fix anything they think the court got wrong — more often than constitutional interpretation, where the court gets the last say.

Posted by stampman
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
4920 posts
Posted on 10/27/20 at 10:53 am to
Uhhh Hank..shouldn't there be 3 orange justices with several more to come?
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
42941 posts
Posted on 10/27/20 at 10:54 am to
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Hank has been searching for a credible article that proves he's "consistent", and he's probably pounding his fist on his desk because he can't find it.

Meanwhile, you provide 2 articles proving his "inconsistency", and all he can do is post some retarded pic and disappear in the ether, still patting himself on the back for his meager effort points he scored by simply arguing against his foes.
Hank was working on another task.

From your perspective, we have an opinion piece from a Far Right publication and another opinion piece from the pet "Conservative" of a mainstream publication. I have provided an opinion piece from that same publication.

The difference? One of the three authors is an attorney and actually understands the issues.
Posted by hogcard1964
Illinois
Member since Jan 2017
10598 posts
Posted on 10/27/20 at 10:56 am to
+1000

Great post

He's been insanely inconsistent.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
42941 posts
Posted on 10/27/20 at 10:57 am to
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Uhhh Hank..shouldn't there be 3 orange justices with several more to come?
Not even sure what this is supposed to mean, but I am certain you thought it was clever.

Trump seems to be appointing solid Strict Constructionists. Good for him. Barrett is a bit too SoCon for my taste and I would have preferred Lagoa, but you won't see me claiming that she is anything other than a solid pick.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
67212 posts
Posted on 10/27/20 at 10:58 am to
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jurisprudential perspective rather than an ideological one, they are almost uniformly-consistent.


They most assuredly are not.
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
21883 posts
Posted on 10/27/20 at 10:59 am to
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How about something from the same source you used,


Ok, so now we're at the not-surprising-at-all conclusion that reasonable people disagree on this and their political persuasion may influence that. Which is a long way from your cartoonish

"You just want him to be ideological, so you create a Grishamesque fantasy/conspiracy to "explain" rulings that you do not like. All the while INSISTING that you do not want an ideological judge, but rather a Strict Constructionist."

Personally, I don't think the "strict constructionist" label belongs within 100 yards of Roberts after his clownish Nevada decision, but that's just me being Grishamesque, I suppose.
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