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Posted on 5/9/26 at 11:10 am to Timeoday
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Get the government out of medicine. The old family doctor, some worked out of their own home or made house calls shall return one day.
Dunno about Louisiana but here in suburban NY it still is the way to go I have four doctors (one a dentist) with their receiving areas a mile from my house.
However they are good for general overall stuff, they will push you elsewhere if you have Huntingtons Disease or Psoriasis or the like....which is what I think the author of the article was talking about.
Posted on 5/9/26 at 11:18 am to jorconalx
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Why did you cut off the other half of his quite? You dishonest pos.
why did I cut off him calling liberals dumb? Because my question is about why people here scoff at books and the people who read them.Posted on 5/9/26 at 11:28 am to 4cubbies
You really are f’ing stupid. And dishonest to boot. That will get you far in life
Posted on 5/9/26 at 11:36 am to prplngldtigr
Correctional medicine or social medicine wtf
Posted on 5/9/26 at 11:52 am to crazy4lsu
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Look at the content of the list itself. What is 'other humanities and art' exactly? Furthermore, the notion that these graduates, some of which are quite silly degrees, are all nearly 1 standard deviation from the median, with several being at the cusp of MENSA membership, is not something that I can believe without stronger evidence.
This is what I said you would do.
It also is correlated with SAT and GRE in math
For more recent data
Another Study.
https://www.scienceopen.com/hosted-document?doi=10.14293/S2199-1006.1.SOR.2024.0002.v1
Their conclusion was that the average college undergrad today has an IQ of just 102.
That was not the case 20 years ago.
That's not the case in the harder fields today.
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Do you understand what IQ scores represent? Because the entirety of the list you posted suggests all those degrees are above the median, and every degree with a score above 112 or so being one standard deviation above the norm. It doesn't seem like you understand what a natural distribution is.
It doesn't seem like you understand what a natural distribution is... People that go to college are not a natural distribution, especially in the years before everyone got access to colleges.
The least prepared/lowest IQ people do not go to college at all.
The lowest prepared of the college people do not go into fields that REQUIRE a high IQ like Math.
Do you expect all math majors and all social science majors to have the same IQ?
I promise you a Bachelors in Math requires a higher IQ than a PhD in Social Work.
30 years ago average IQ scores were much higher for people in college.
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The proportion of the population enrolling in and graduating with university degrees has been increasing steeply since at least 1940 [28]. Figure 2 shows the proportion of the US population, aged 25 years and older, who completed high school, 1 to 3 years of college, and attained four or more years of college (i.e., the college graduates), from 1940 to 2021. Percentages of individuals with high school increased from 24.1 to 91.1, with 1 to 3 years of college from 10.0 to 63.2, and with four or more years of college from 4.6 to 37.9.
See why this is not a natural distribution.
This post was edited on 5/9/26 at 12:04 pm
Posted on 5/9/26 at 11:52 am to Timeoday
The old family doctor is different from the ER doctor. These are ER doctors. You get shot or have a heart attack or stroke, ior bad car accident with injury n the New Orleans area, you want UMC.......some of the best trauma care around.
Posted on 5/9/26 at 11:57 am to 4cubbies
Bombarded by an ideology you must comply with or be kicked out. Liberalism is not something you can disagree with and left wing loons respect my opinion. Instead, they label you in medicine as a trouble maker. Liberals are infested in higher Ed and corporate medicine. I keep up with your posts 4cubbies and you invite despair with your arguments. But in the end I respect your opinion as your own. Liberals would die before they would let that happen…
Posted on 5/9/26 at 12:07 pm to Narax
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It doesn't seem like you understand what a natural distribution is... People that go to college are not a natural distribution, especially in the years before everyone got access to colleges.
Buddy, you are struggling. This is going to go down as dumb as your various takes on Canada.
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Do you expect all math majors and all social science majors to have the same IQ?
Look at the list you posted again. There are several social sciences listed that have scores which are well within the range of math-heavy subjects, and depending on what the hell 'Other Humanities and Art' means in terms of degrees, equal to some.
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Do you expect all math majors and all social science majors to have the same IQ?
Again, look at your list you yourself posted.
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See why this is not a natural distribution.
Again, you immensely dense moron, IQ is distributed that way, and given that distribution, it seems even more unlikely that some of those fields have such high IQs. Again, look closely at your list and then tell me what 'Engineering' is supposed represent. Since you apparently don't care about the content of your list, it is between Mechanical Engineering and Electrical Engineering. And among the highest is philosophy, which is a field which basically no one regards highly and has no immediate job prospects, as it is not a vocational degree.
Posted on 5/9/26 at 12:23 pm to SloaneRanger
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That collection of residents. Damn. SMH.
5 black women
2 non black / non white women
3 non black / non white men
2 white women
3 white men
0 Asians
0 Black men
I'm going to suggest this isn't a coincidence.
Posted on 5/9/26 at 12:27 pm to moneyg
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I'm going to suggest this isn't a coincidence.
I'm going to suggest you don't understand how the match algorithm works.
Posted on 5/9/26 at 12:42 pm to crazy4lsu
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Buddy, you are struggling. This is going to go down as dumb as your various takes on Canada.
You still butthurt over how much Canada sucks?
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Look at the list you posted again. There are several social sciences listed that have scores which are well within the range of math-heavy subjects, and depending on what the hell 'Other Humanities and Art' means in terms of degrees, equal to some.
Yes, that's how statistics works, you get data, you process it, and you report the results.
An intelligent person would theorize and research why "Other Humanities and Art" score so high.
They might theorize that Music which is a very intelligence driven field may account for some of those scores.
It's data. The fact that you don't like it is not surprising, you don't like things you can't understand. But that's a you problem.
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Again, look at your list you yourself posted.
Yes, it's data, it aligns to the more recent study I posted.
Depending on the field of major IQ shows different trends, this is taking the average score in their study.
A lot of data staring you in the face, and you don't like it.
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Again, you immensely dense moron, IQ is distributed that way,
Ok, you win, I'll dumb it down for you.
So if we normalize athletic talent (IQ), just foot speed in a 100m dash, then we hold tryouts (SAT/ACT), the high-school then picks the fastest kids to represent the team.
They then compete with another school who did the same.
And even though foot speed is distributed equally across the population, those race times will be far outside the standard deviation.
Just like with Engineering and Math, mentally these are hard subjects, and IQ represents the brains abilities.
Those without a high IQ cannot succeed in Engineering or Math (Or Music).
So you wind up with a not naturally selected sample.
The sample of all Math Majors is a select group who's high IQ made them able to succeed in a very difficult field.
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and given that distribution, it seems even more unlikely that some of those fields have such high IQs.
As I just showed, the sample is all those who succeed in a difficult field that requires high IQ (Footspeed) to even be in.
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Again, look closely at your list and then tell me what 'Engineering' is supposed represent. Since you apparently don't care about the content of your list, it is between Mechanical Engineering and Electrical Engineering.
Both require significantly higher IQ than Early Childhood Education.
Or in sports terms, linemen make bad wide receivers.
IQ is not a gate to Early Childhood Education. It is to Engineering, people who do not make the minimum will struggle and likely drop out.
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And among the highest is philosophy, which is a field which basically no one regards highly and has no immediate job prospects, as it is not a vocational degree.
You do understand Logic is as intense as Software engineering, possibly more intense in the abstract layered thinking.
Oh wait... you don't... because... that's right...
Keep down voting me to make yourself feel better.
This post was edited on 5/9/26 at 12:43 pm
Posted on 5/9/26 at 12:57 pm to Narax
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An intelligent person would theorize and research why "Other Humanities and Art" score so high.
No, I am asking what this category includes, as that is meaningful to the discussion.
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It's data. The fact that you don't like it is not surprising, you don't like things you can't understand. But that's a you problem.
It's sloppy, poorly presented data.
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Yes, it's data, it aligns to the more recent study I posted.
Man, there is a data point there that simply says 'Library.' What? You seem very fond of sloppy data that doesn't say anything.
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So if we normalize athletic talent (IQ), just foot speed in a 100m dash, then we hold tryouts (SAT/ACT), the high-school then picks the fastest kids to represent the team.
They then compete with another school who did the same.
And even though foot speed is distributed equally across the population, those race times will be far outside the standard deviation.
Just like with Engineering and Math, mentally these are hard subjects, and IQ represents the brains abilities.
Those without a high IQ cannot succeed in Engineering or Math (Or Music).
You don't seem to understand my point.
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Both require significantly higher IQ than Early Childhood Education.
Or in sports terms, linemen make bad wide receivers.
IQ is not a gate to Early Childhood Education. It is to Engineering, people who do not make the minimum will struggle and likely drop out.
Again, look at the list. I am talking about the categories the list itself defines. What does 'Engineering' represent and how is it meaningfully different from other disciplines of engineering such that it requires its own category? The data you posted is presented in the most obscure, oblique way and you can't seem to understand why the category errors in that list should make one skeptical of the data as a whole. I am not suggesting that people who are good at math do not have high IQ's, I am suggesting that the way the data is presented itself beggars belief by virtue of the categories.
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You do understand Logic is as intense as Software engineering, possibly more intense in the abstract layered thinking.
Yes, and I also understand how departments of philosophy in the US are structured, with a focus on what is analytic philosophy (or Anglo-American) versus continental philosophy. My familiarity with how departments are structured and the various syllabi of multiple departments is what leads me to directly question the data.
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Oh wait... you don't... because... that's right...
Lol, bud, you are in a thread about a medical residency, which is something I know you know nothing about, talking about IQ, which is another subject I know you know nothing about. Double down, I don't give a shite, but that doesn't change the fact that the list you posted is not believable.
This post was edited on 5/9/26 at 12:58 pm
Posted on 5/9/26 at 1:39 pm to crazy4lsu
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No, I am asking what this category includes, as that is meaningful to the discussion.
No, what is relevant is that different majors show clear IQ trends.
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It's sloppy, poorly presented data.
I'll tell the Jews at Tablet Mag that you think they suck.
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Man, there is a data point there that simply says 'Library.' What? You seem very fond of sloppy data that doesn't say anything.
I guess you were left off the pre-print review, they really needed basic people like you to complain about their labeling, because you have far too little time to read their paper.
https://www.mtroyal.ca/ProgramsCourses/FacultiesSchoolsCentres/Arts/Departments/Psychology/Faculty/arts_psych_fac_bio_butt.htm
You can go complain to the lead author, he's a Canadian you should get a long well as you tell him he's sloppy.
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You don't seem to understand my point.
No I happen to and you are trying to shift.
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I am suggesting that the way the data is presented itself beggars belief by virtue of the categories.
No, you lost the plot on what a natural distribution is and how you just can't wrap your mind around it...
You've never done a study have you? You don't read them often?
Data is king, the most recent one I posted has 106 studies it got data from.
The Data is what the Data is. It shows clearly that there are trends in IQ by major.
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I am not suggesting that people who are good at math do not have high IQ's
Then what is so hard to comprehend that these majors self sort people?
There are obviously smart people in any field, but to even get into those STEM fields require more prereqs.
Again, it's not that all the smart people go into math, it's that the not smart ones can't go in, or can't stay in.
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My familiarity with how departments are structured and the various syllabi of multiple departments is what leads me to directly question the data.
Which is why you somehow think there is a natural distribution by degree type.
This goes back to my point, there are many people in a number of fields who have PhDs who are only capable of basic reasoning, they are mediocre, they can do well in a field that aligns with Education but not intelligence.
I've seen how regimented your mind is, things you don't understand always makes you uncomfortable.
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Lol, bud, you are in a thread about a medical residency, which is something I know you know nothing about, talking about IQ, which is another subject I know you know nothing about. Double down, I don't give a shite, but that doesn't change the fact that the list you posted is not believable.
You like most midwits have to protect your worldview. It's a known trait.
I'll tell Tablet Mag you feel uncomfortable
Posted on 5/9/26 at 1:45 pm to Narax
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No, what is relevant is that different majors show clear IQ trends.
Lol
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I'll tell the Jews at Tablet Mag that you think they suck.
Typical of your brand of dishonesty.
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I guess you were left off the pre-print review, they really needed basic people like you to complain about their labeling, because you have far too little time to read their paper.
Bud, you are moved by poorly labeled data. Good for you.
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You've never done a study have you? You don't read them often?
Buddy, I have more publications, especially after COVID, than most physicians ever will. I deal with studies and data all the time.
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I've seen how regimented your mind is, things you don't understand always makes you uncomfortable.
Lol, none of this makes me uncomfortable man. You are just upset. It will be okay.
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You like most midwits have to protect your worldview. It's a known trait.
Lol. Bud, you are out of your element all the time. Post through it, like you usually do.
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I'll tell Tablet Mag you feel uncomfortable
Typical of your dishonesty. Sad!
Posted on 5/9/26 at 2:15 pm to crazy4lsu
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Typical of your brand of dishonesty.
You are just bitter because you are a midwit lol.
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Bud, you are moved by poorly labeled data. Good for you.
... Low IQ people cannot see trends it's literally on the test buddy...
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Buddy, I have more publications, especially after COVID, than most physicians ever will. I deal with studies and data all the time.
In a midwit field? The bar for publishing is super low for most fields.
It's quite obvious for most midwits that number of publications are inverse to quality.
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Typical of your dishonesty. Sad!
Yup, good job midwit.
Posted on 5/9/26 at 2:23 pm to AndyJ
I’d like to get some equity pricing on my marketplace premiums. That would be nice.
Posted on 5/9/26 at 2:24 pm to Big4SALTbro
quote:I didn't know that "trust in the medical field is so low."
People wonder why the trust in the medical field is so low
I'd like to learn more about that. Got any links about it??
Posted on 5/9/26 at 2:42 pm to Narax
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In a midwit field? The bar for publishing is super low for most fields.
You poor thing. Run along little dude. This is way above your paygrade.
Posted on 5/9/26 at 2:50 pm to biglego
look how the son is dressed, he won't be a boy for very long!
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