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re: Charlottesville unanimously votes to remove Robert E. Lee, Stonewall Jackson statues
Posted on 6/10/21 at 7:44 am to wackatimesthree
Posted on 6/10/21 at 7:44 am to wackatimesthree
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If you can show me any other country where statues honoring people who attempted to overthrow the government of the country and failed are commonplace, you might have a point.
It’s sort of interesting, isn’t it? Why are you deadset on destroying what is interesting and unique? Why clamor for “sameness”?
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Posted on 6/10/21 at 7:46 am to Fat Bastard
quote:Not happening. He disappeared faster than Samantha after a nose twitch.
ead the 2 b00ks referenced in that ink and educate yourself
Posted on 6/10/21 at 7:55 am to UsingUpAllTheLetters
quote:
We need a war.
Probably
But not really over this
Over the concepts leading to this, maybe
Posted on 6/10/21 at 7:56 am to Y.A. Tittle
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It’s sort of interesting, isn’t it? Why are you deadset on destroying what is interesting and unique? Why clamor for “sameness”?
We really need two countries.
Posted on 6/10/21 at 7:58 am to L.A.
even if they took down every statue of every white person ever created, they'd still bitch about slavery that no white person currently on earth ever participated in
Posted on 6/10/21 at 8:21 am to Logician
From a “how are we to be governed perspective?” The South was fighting for a way of governing much closer to the plan of the founding fathers. Lincoln started us on the path of this bloated, over powerful Federal government.
Posted on 6/10/21 at 8:51 am to UsingUpAllTheLetters
quote:
We need a war
Unfortunately, there is one going on now. Only one side is actively participating though
Posted on 6/10/21 at 9:00 am to L.A.
Dumb. Obviously. But at least there was some form of a process unlike others who just said frick it, we’ll tear them down at night
Posted on 6/10/21 at 9:13 am to L.A.
I don't have a problem with this as long as it was voted for and not torn down.
Posted on 6/10/21 at 9:15 am to L.A.
When's the book burning? And why is the that blackface governor allowed to stay? I thought blackface was racist? 
Posted on 6/10/21 at 9:22 am to wackatimesthree
quote:
Well, no. They are most well known for helping lead a rebellion against the United States of America for the purpose of allowing many people to own slaves.
Good grief, man. You are so very ignorant of actual history. Read some books, lots of books, and...post less.
Posted on 6/10/21 at 9:26 am to L.A.
Goddamm shame
Posted on 6/10/21 at 11:08 am to udtiger
quote:Absurd, isn't it?
So, eliminating part of the history tells a more complete history?
Posted on 6/10/21 at 11:13 am to wackatimesthree
quote:They did no such thing. They separated their own states from the federal government. The original government continued just fine.
people who attempted to overthrow the government of the country
Second... every revolutionary hero in this country overthrew it's original rulers. But... I wouldn't be surprised if you want them canceled too.
Posted on 6/10/21 at 11:17 am to Y.A. Tittle
quote:Like the Taliban, herd mentality movements cannot tolerate non-compliance.
Why clamor for “sameness”?
Posted on 6/10/21 at 11:19 am to MIZZOU_JP
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I don't have a problem with this as long as it was voted for and not torn down.
Yeah, I have no issue with towns and cities and states deciding to change who they honor or put in places of prominence over time. Street names change, schools change, etc.
I just wish the premises for these moves were more nuanced and reasonable, and not the product of an illiberal, ahistorical frenzy. They recently changed the name of Grady High in Atlanta. Nuanced guy, did a lot of good, had some shitty views on certain things but nothing abnormal for the time.
It'd just be so refreshing if as a city we could go "we honored Henry Grady for 96 years as a notable Atlantan, but the time has come to move on and move forward. With that, we want to honor another famous Atlantan in this new age, blah blah blah."
But that's not how it works. You don't look to the future, you burn down the past and salt the fields because deep down they know that applying any nuance to the past will open up the present to the same examination, and that will show the massive flaws of the people and ideas they're celebrating now.
Posted on 6/10/21 at 11:36 am to VBFlorida
i was waiting for someone to come and start with this angle. two things happen in every thread about statues. someone wants to redo the civil war and then someone or many people flock to tell us it wasnt about slavey but about the state right to slavery. 
Posted on 6/10/21 at 11:40 am to L.A.
Be careful. Statues fight back in Virginia. Ask the poor mope last summer who got decapitated by one.
Posted on 6/10/21 at 11:48 am to StaticSurfer
There’s no living with these people. They are what they are.
They won’t change.
They won’t change.
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