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re: CBO: Trump’s Tariffs Could Slash Deficit by $4 Trillion

Posted on 9/3/25 at 8:01 am to
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
38300 posts
Posted on 9/3/25 at 8:01 am to
Who wrote that? It's like they use debt and deficit interchangeably.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
62933 posts
Posted on 9/3/25 at 8:02 am to
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While raising the cost to consumers over that time by $3.3 trillion



This is why so many like yourself come to the wrong conclusion on tariffs. It's based on a faulty understanding of who will bear the cost.

Expecting the consumer to bear the entire cost is humorously false.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476282 posts
Posted on 9/3/25 at 8:02 am to
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CBO claims Trump’s Tariffs Could Slash Deficit by $4 Trillion.

How does anything you said or he said invalidate that?


Did you read his point? In the "bring manufacturing back" scenario, we wouldn't be charging tariffs because those products would be made domestically, and no longer imported.

No imports = no tariffs.

We can't do both at any scale as they compete with each other.

The 2 other rotating goals are, (1) National Security and (2) Refinance the Debt (which I believe is currently dead).
Posted by LSUfan20005
Member since Sep 2012
9222 posts
Posted on 9/3/25 at 8:05 am to
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You don't HAVE to buy that same priduct.


My problem is the tariffs are applied to international agricultural products that cannot be produced in America. I have clients getting hurt by tariffs significantly who manufacture everything in the US but use intl components (tropical fruits, nuts, seasonings, etc)
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
97810 posts
Posted on 9/3/25 at 8:05 am to
quote:

Still melting


Hes melting so hard. His TDS is flaring up
Posted by da foozball
Member since Nov 2012
776 posts
Posted on 9/3/25 at 8:08 am to
His candidate lost and he has the TDS sads
Posted by PaperTiger
Ruston, LA
Member since Feb 2015
26616 posts
Posted on 9/3/25 at 8:11 am to
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have clients getting hurt by tariffs significantly


What products exactly? I'd be interested in researching tariffs before and after.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
138635 posts
Posted on 9/3/25 at 8:12 am to
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While raising the cost to consumers over that time by $3.3 trillion

That's one of the least thoughtful, TDS-riddled posts you've made.
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
28046 posts
Posted on 9/3/25 at 8:13 am to
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My problem is the tariffs are applied to international agricultural products that cannot be produced in America.


Because there doesn't appear to be any coherent plan. We're just throwing shite out there, some of it sticks, some we have to wipe off the wall ourselves and pretend it's all part of the strategy.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476282 posts
Posted on 9/3/25 at 8:14 am to
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Still melting.

Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476282 posts
Posted on 9/3/25 at 8:15 am to
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Hes melting so hard. His TDS is flaring up

Batting 0/2 so far today.

You don't know what "can't" means and don't know what "melting" means, either.
Posted by Bigdawgb
Member since Oct 2023
4119 posts
Posted on 9/3/25 at 8:17 am to
What's the point of articles like this??? 10 year financial projections have SUCH a great track record.

I think the tariffs will do some good for the deficit, but why do we need 2 pages of dudes quibbling over napkin math & 10 year projections
This post was edited on 9/3/25 at 8:18 am
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
28046 posts
Posted on 9/3/25 at 8:19 am to
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10 year financial projections have SUCH a great track record.


They're comical, and to add to the comedy they're talking about tariffs that are essentially EOs and can be reversed the day he leaves office.

Or sooner, if patterns continue.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
97810 posts
Posted on 9/3/25 at 8:21 am to
Everyone knows you are melting and have severe TDS
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
28046 posts
Posted on 9/3/25 at 8:35 am to
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Expecting the consumer to bear the entire cost is humorously false.


How much of the cost is the consumer going to bear?
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
63261 posts
Posted on 9/3/25 at 8:39 am to
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How the frick can you post that number and not link where it came from?
it's in the OP. It's the entire premise of the "article".

Watching y'all cheer the conclusion while attacking the premise is truly amazing.
This post was edited on 9/3/25 at 8:44 am
Posted by Timeoday
Easter Island
Member since Aug 2020
22731 posts
Posted on 9/3/25 at 8:47 am to
People just do not realize how wealthy this country and its people are when we are able to turn off that trade deficit engine and its loud sucking sound.
Posted by Ingeniero
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2013
22996 posts
Posted on 9/3/25 at 8:51 am to
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it's in the OP. It's the entire premise of the "article".

Watching y'all cheer the conclusion while attacking the premise is truly amazing.


From the CBO analysis:

quote:

The increases in tariffs will make consumer goods and capital goods (the physical assets that businesses use to produce goods and services) more expensive, which will reduce the purchasing power of U.S. consumers and businesses. Those increases in costs will put temporary upward pressure on inflation.


How is this possible? Consumers will be paying MORE? I was told this is impossible!
Posted by LSUnKaty
Katy, TX
Member since Dec 2008
4895 posts
Posted on 9/3/25 at 9:02 am to
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Did you read his point?
I was addressing what you said about the OP, not him.

Seems like what you are talking about invalidating is not what the OP said but what the CBO said.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476282 posts
Posted on 9/3/25 at 9:05 am to
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I was addressing what you said about the OP, not him.


Why did you quote this?

quote:

Yours invalidates OP in a different way




I was commenting on him bringing up one example of the goalless, malleable nature of this from MAGA. There are no stated goals and they shift for every story and new piece of data.
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