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re: Catholic Church freaking out at losing cash cow: just issued new immigration statement

Posted on 11/14/25 at 8:04 am to
Posted by TulsaSooner78
Member since Aug 2025
2991 posts
Posted on 11/14/25 at 8:04 am to
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Catholic Church has never answered for all the Nazi's they helped escape justice at the end of WWII.


Posted by Hangit
The Green Swamp
Member since Aug 2014
46861 posts
Posted on 11/14/25 at 8:15 am to
Has anybody been able to find out the number of immigrants and illegal aliens the Vatican has living there?
Posted by geauxEdO
Member since Aug 2017
257 posts
Posted on 11/14/25 at 8:24 am to
what’s there to be sympathetic about? it’s just flat out bad policy. if they actually cared about these people, then they’d warn them against the dangers of illegal immigration, and most importantly, they would be calling out the bad actors who create instability in their home countries.
Posted by jizzle6609
Houston
Member since Jul 2009
20103 posts
Posted on 11/14/25 at 8:26 am to
The Catholic Church has no business in how a country maintains its borders. Caesar and God are two different entities.

I agree but just remember historically it’s the God who blesses the decisions of the Caesar before Caesar even moves.

There’s more control than people want to comfortably admit and there’s a reason.

This has been the case in multiple crisis in our history. Hell, the Nuremberg trials wouldnt have happened without the Pope.
This post was edited on 11/14/25 at 8:28 am
Posted by TulsaSooner78
Member since Aug 2025
2991 posts
Posted on 11/14/25 at 8:28 am to
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The article lists all the popes up to Benedict XVI. Afterward we know it goes to Francis then Leo XIV


Not every Catholic agrees with that.

Example: When the line of popes was broken

Excerpt:

quote:

The Man of Sin.
Once Paul VI became a formal, public, heretic, officially, on November 19, 1969, when he publicly rejected the pleas of the Traditionalists and the Ottaviani Intervention, he became automatically excommunicated and there was no papal election to replace him. Therefore the line of popes was broken in violation of Vatican Council I, which teaches Papal Infallibility and Perpetuity of the Papacy. As a result of this action, Paul VI identifies with the Biblical “Man of Sin,” in II Thessalonians 2. Which in turn, instituted the “Great Apostasy,” (Schism) and the Reign of AntiChrists which can only be concluded with the Second Coming of Christ on judgment day, the last Pentecost Sunday.
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
Bat'n Rudge
Member since Oct 2004
63426 posts
Posted on 11/14/25 at 8:31 am to
I like how they omitted the adjectives “illegal” when referring to the so-called immigrants in question.
Posted by icecreamsnowball
Member since Mar 2025
1375 posts
Posted on 11/14/25 at 8:33 am to
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prayer is an act of worship.
that isn’t always true
Posted by TulsaSooner78
Member since Aug 2025
2991 posts
Posted on 11/14/25 at 8:35 am to
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You realize that Jesus likely wiped his arse with his hand too, right?


Jesus pooped?
Posted by icecreamsnowball
Member since Mar 2025
1375 posts
Posted on 11/14/25 at 8:35 am to
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No mortal man can grant forgiveness, nor act in the place of Christ.
“I’m just going to keep repeating the same thing over and over again because I know I’m wrong.”
Posted by keks tadpole
Yellow Leaf Creek
Member since Feb 2017
8690 posts
Posted on 11/14/25 at 8:38 am to
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The Catholic Church was helping fund these invaders.

No sir. We funded the invaders. Catholic Charities was our “subcontractor”, and making money hand over fist.
Posted by SoFla Tideroller
South Florida
Member since Apr 2010
41037 posts
Posted on 11/14/25 at 8:39 am to
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Reminder that every Protestant is their own priest, so we need to tally the sins accordingly.


I'm Baptist. Baylor can't even win the Big12. Try again.
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
46873 posts
Posted on 11/14/25 at 10:59 am to
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quote:

prayer is an act of worship.

that isn’t always true
I disagree. Prayer is by its nature a worshipful action, which is why it's always included as an element of worship in Christianity. Prayer in the Bible is always associated with faithful or faithless worship: prayer is always directed to the right object (God) in the right way, directed to the right object in the wrong way (hypocrisy, faithlessness, etc.), or directed at the wrong object (false gods and other idols). No where in the Bible is prayer mentioned apart from worship (praising God, confessing sin to God, giving thanks to God, or asking God for something), even if it is in private (Matt. 6:6).

What I believe is happening with Catholicism is that they have added a non-biblical teaching and practice regarding prayer, so that the word, itself, is redefined to include merely asking someone something (prayer is much more than that, as I just listed), so that it doesn't get labeled as false worship or idolatry. The Bible doesn't support this view.
Posted by olgoi khorkhoi
priapism survivor
Member since May 2011
16775 posts
Posted on 11/14/25 at 8:08 pm to
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Do tell?



The Catholic church is neither a government organization or established by God. Early Christianity was hijacked by the Roman Empire and used to control the people and consolidate power.

Posted by SallysHuman
Lady Palmetto Bug
Member since Jan 2025
21849 posts
Posted on 11/14/25 at 8:11 pm to
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Early Christianity was hijacked by the Roman Empire and used to control the people and consolidate power.


I'm not Catholic... but I am a Christian... you don't think God works through and in spite of the machinations of men?
Posted by threeputt23
Hammond la
Member since Dec 2021
386 posts
Posted on 11/14/25 at 8:16 pm to
The Catholic Church figures that immigrants being able to succeed in America and will donate more to their church so it’s always about the money with the richest association in history.
Posted by Drew1964
Member since Nov 2024
295 posts
Posted on 11/14/25 at 9:08 pm to
The Catholic Church should be going after democrats for spying on Catholics and Christian’s in the USA. Democrats have it their way there will be no more Christian’s . I was raised in the Catholic Church but I am not a practicing Catholic now because of their involvement in politics.
Posted by theballguy
HSV (Dealing only in satire)
Member since Oct 2011
37296 posts
Posted on 11/14/25 at 9:09 pm to
The Catholic Church needs to be seen as champions of the poor else no more little peoples' support.
Posted by NASA_ISS_Tiger
Huntsville, Al via Sulphur, LA
Member since Sep 2005
8245 posts
Posted on 11/17/25 at 9:21 am to
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No mortal man can grant you forgiveness.


And no mortal man does....it's through God that absolution of sin is granted.

You do realize that Jesus himself made a mere mortal man the first Pope of the Roman Catholic Church right?
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
35543 posts
Posted on 11/17/25 at 4:58 pm to
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You truly believe that?


I'm sure some money trickles elsewhere and up the chain, but those other entities also have their own donation streams. I don't donate to those.

My parish collects very little beyond it's budget, and is often short. They are not sending very much elsewhere.
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