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re: Can we discuss the legality of Roth IRA from a political standpoint?

Posted on 1/10/20 at 12:11 pm to
Posted by AuburnTigers
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Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 1/10/20 at 12:11 pm to
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lsudave1
doesnt understand taxes and how retirement accounts work. An excellent example of.how our educational system has failed our youth
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
38463 posts
Posted on 1/10/20 at 12:12 pm to
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He didn’t mention race so you don’t need to be outraged.
I don't see concern trolling over abortion, so you cool too.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
154602 posts
Posted on 1/10/20 at 12:17 pm to
One of us wanted to be outraged in this thread. Come on man.

I now support abortion. It's a net benefit.

I just want progs to be honest about the killing part. Is that too much to ask?
This post was edited on 1/10/20 at 12:18 pm
Posted by GregMaddux
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Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 1/10/20 at 12:20 pm to
You should run for office Dave
Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 1/10/20 at 12:20 pm to
THE ONLY ISSUE I see is that for the Roth IRA your initial contributions PLUS the investment GAIN is disbursed tax free (if I understand correctly). Therefor you are NOT PAYING taxes on the GAINS. This is a bone they throw to the US retirees which I am all in favor of.

The more people we have retiring on their own savings the better off we are as a country. GET OFF THE PUBLIC DOLE.

ETA: Can we discuss the legality of Roth IRA from a political standpoint? Whaat? which is it that you want to discuss? Legality or politics?
This post was edited on 1/10/20 at 12:22 pm
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
38463 posts
Posted on 1/10/20 at 12:33 pm to
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One of us wanted to be outraged in this thread. Come on man.
I was joking you dumbass.

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I now support abortion. It's a net benefit.
Are you being serious?
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 1/10/20 at 12:40 pm to
OP is a colossal dumbass
Posted by Bham Bammer
Member since Nov 2014
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Posted on 1/10/20 at 12:43 pm to
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Right you can place money into your 409k after tax, but to what cost? I just don’t see how this is moral when the government hasn’t given opportunities to invest in companies with a larger economic footprint.

You're trying to sound smart and you really sound like a dumbass.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 1/10/20 at 12:47 pm to
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The more I think about it, the more I question the ethics of this egregious manifestation of the law. Yes, it’s great that retirees are able to draw money without a federal tax, but can we all agree that having an account for only five years puts those who have saved for much longer at a disadvantage? How should that excuse an individual from withdrawal without taxation?



Sounds like you have no clue how a Roth IRA works. Do some reading.
Posted by GetmorewithLes
UK Basketball Fan
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 1/10/20 at 12:49 pm to
Conventional IRA’s and 401k’s are pretax contributions. Roth IRA contributions are taxed up front.
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 1/10/20 at 12:53 pm to
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How should that excuse an individual from withdrawal without taxation?





Come again.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 1/10/20 at 12:59 pm to
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can we all agree that having an account for only five years puts those who have saved for much longer at a disadvantage?
No.
Posted by narddogg81
Vancouver
Member since Jan 2012
21902 posts
Posted on 1/10/20 at 1:02 pm to
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Roth IRA
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Yes, it’s great that retirees are able to draw money without a federal tax
Roth contributions are after tax. You want people to pay income tax too when they draw it out? Dumbass
This post was edited on 1/10/20 at 1:04 pm
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
133596 posts
Posted on 1/10/20 at 1:06 pm to
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I just don’t see how this is moral when the government hasn’t given opportunities to invest in companies with a larger economic footprint.


Posted by TigerTatorTots
The Safeshore
Member since Jul 2009
82053 posts
Posted on 1/10/20 at 1:14 pm to
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How should that excuse an individual from withdrawal without taxation?
Because the money going into a Roth IRA is taxed on the front end??? Is this a troll or you just have no idea how it works?
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
154602 posts
Posted on 1/10/20 at 1:14 pm to
You need a comma between joking and you, dumbass.


Joking about abortion? No. It’s not funny.

I wish abortion was illegal and didn’t exist. It’s hideous.

A prog made me realize I didn’t care really because I don’t protest it. He was kinda right.

Let me be clear though. It’s a hideous act in my opinion. A tiny human is torn to shreds and terminated. There’s nothing about that act that isn’t hideous.

Yeah yeah rape incest blah blah.

The act itself is reprehensible.
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
53758 posts
Posted on 1/10/20 at 1:17 pm to
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The more I think about it, the more I question the ethics of this egregious manifestation of the law. Yes, it’s great that retirees are able to draw money without a federal tax, but can we all agree that having an account for only five years puts those who have saved for much longer at a disadvantage? How should that excuse an individual from withdrawal without taxation?


I think the intent of the Roth IRA went completely over your head......it was to encourage people to save after tax dollars for retirement. A Roth IRA is meant to be a supplemental means of income for retirees that is tax free on the earnings in the account...all young folks should be maxing their Roth IRA contributions out every year. If you have a 401k you should contribute at a minimum the money that is matched by the employer, after that contribution is met and you have additionally money to save for retirement you really need to consider using after tax dollars to build up that Roth....A married couple who begins contributing to a Roth in their 20's can have a nice tax free disbursement by age 62.
Posted by Homesick Tiger
Greenbrier, AR
Member since Nov 2006
56126 posts
Posted on 1/10/20 at 1:23 pm to
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How should that excuse an individual from withdrawal without taxation?



Because it's an investment with taxation. Do you not understand how a Roth acct. is regulated?
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
38463 posts
Posted on 1/10/20 at 3:00 pm to
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A prog made me realize I didn’t care really because I don’t protest it. He was kinda right.
I'm not a prog, but what is me?

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Yeah yeah rape incest blah blah.
I hate that argument. Either you are for or against it. The provenance shouldn't matter.
Posted by SSpaniel
Germantown
Member since Feb 2013
29658 posts
Posted on 1/10/20 at 3:13 pm to
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The more I think about it, the more I question the ethics of this egregious manifestation of the law. Yes, it’s great that retirees are able to draw money without a federal tax, but can we all agree that having an account for only five years puts those who have saved for much longer at a disadvantage? How should that excuse an individual from withdrawal without taxation?
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