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re: Can the U.S. auto industry adapt fast enough to survive?
Posted on 3/30/26 at 12:05 pm to AUCom96
Posted on 3/30/26 at 12:05 pm to AUCom96
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No 'entry-level vehicles', hardly. It's all near 100K SUVs and trucks.
Prices keep skyrocketing due to an endless array of electronics that are now "necessary" in every vehicle
This is what really hurts the consumer the most. Us emissions and standards block out most of the international brands that could come in and offer 'simple' reliable cars with no electronics and no modern bullshite that is required by automakers now.
Toyota basically has half the cars unavailable to the US market because of this. They actually still make incredibly basic, largely mechanical models of suve and trucks that cannot and never have been able to be sold in the US.
It kills the business.
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Posted on 3/30/26 at 12:07 pm to Powerman
Yeah, lets hope they can do it.
I believe they are probably too burdened by regulations and labor unions to be able to adapt quickly enough to survive.
I believe they are probably too burdened by regulations and labor unions to be able to adapt quickly enough to survive.
Posted on 3/30/26 at 12:10 pm to Mr Happy
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American cars need to be more reliable for me to care about them.
And if making them more reliable cost them money, then just cut out all of the electronic gadgets except AC/Heat and a radio. I'll buy it.
Posted on 3/30/26 at 12:20 pm to Powerman
The dumbass US automakers abandoned the midsize and compact car segment years ago but the problem is they’re still selling by the hundreds of thousands. Honda, Toyota, and the Koreans said “thanks we’ll take it from here!”. I recently bought a 2026 Honda civic because I wanted a car under $30000 and the only 3 choices were Honda, Toyota and the Koreans. No I don’t want a pos Chevy Trax, I wanted a car. So screw the American car makers, let them go bankrupt and this time let them stay bankrupt.
Posted on 3/30/26 at 12:47 pm to Powerman
Not with union wages being so high.
Posted on 3/30/26 at 12:51 pm to RobertFootball
I think a car manufacturer could be successful if they build an internal combustion egine with no connection to the internet at all. Completely off the grid. Make it simple and easy to maintain yourself.
I think there would be a market for this, as opposed to a car where they can track your movement, listen to your conversations, find out what radio shows you listen to, disable your car remotely, etc.
I think a lot of folks would want at least one car like that in their driveway.
I think there would be a market for this, as opposed to a car where they can track your movement, listen to your conversations, find out what radio shows you listen to, disable your car remotely, etc.
I think a lot of folks would want at least one car like that in their driveway.
Posted on 3/30/26 at 1:04 pm to Jax-Tiger
I agree with Jax-Tiger. There is a market for that and for young men that want to learn how to work on cars, this could be attractive. Way too much electronics and goofy safety features we don't need.
Use a computer to control engine systems, fuel injection, air flow sensors and such. But everything else can be switches. You only really need a computer for the engine management.
But the auto dealers make their nut on the service and repair. So they need people bringing in their overly complicated cars for repair. The automakers see all these features as money makers. It's cheap and has incredible profit margin to make all this stuff standard. A stripped down car/truck cost the same in labor to make but the profit goes down.
Use a computer to control engine systems, fuel injection, air flow sensors and such. But everything else can be switches. You only really need a computer for the engine management.
But the auto dealers make their nut on the service and repair. So they need people bringing in their overly complicated cars for repair. The automakers see all these features as money makers. It's cheap and has incredible profit margin to make all this stuff standard. A stripped down car/truck cost the same in labor to make but the profit goes down.
Posted on 3/30/26 at 1:13 pm to Powerman
I already know how my statement is going to go to people here.
But the truth is the new Chinese EVs are way ahead of what people give them credit for. The days of laughing off anything and everything produced in China "should" be behind us. They are innovating and they are doing so at a price-point that actually makes sense.
This isnt to say we should be buying chinese vehicles. But we also shouldn't be writing them off because they come from China. Elon/our auto industry needs to wake up and realize the products are not quite the front runner we think it is and adapt.
But the truth is the new Chinese EVs are way ahead of what people give them credit for. The days of laughing off anything and everything produced in China "should" be behind us. They are innovating and they are doing so at a price-point that actually makes sense.
This isnt to say we should be buying chinese vehicles. But we also shouldn't be writing them off because they come from China. Elon/our auto industry needs to wake up and realize the products are not quite the front runner we think it is and adapt.
This post was edited on 3/30/26 at 1:16 pm
Posted on 3/30/26 at 1:31 pm to Powerman
The problem is mainly one thing: cheap imported cars.
The answer is heavier tariffs. Especially in China and India, which are preparing to eat the world alive with cheap, domestic-industry killing exports. Unless you’re a Wall Street Journal idiot that thinks the West can live totally on finance and service economy wages.
The answer is heavier tariffs. Especially in China and India, which are preparing to eat the world alive with cheap, domestic-industry killing exports. Unless you’re a Wall Street Journal idiot that thinks the West can live totally on finance and service economy wages.
Posted on 3/30/26 at 1:31 pm to cdur86
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Are you under the assumption that people are paying for these trucks outright? Most are paying monthly payments of $300-$400 over the next 15 years to pay it off.
Yup and that’s the issue. They offer longer terms to boost sales now but it will catch up eventually as people have to keep new cars longer before buying another
Posted on 3/30/26 at 1:34 pm to Powerman
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Toyota never got into that nonsense and they're concerned
What?
They had the fricking Prius.
They led the industry on that nonsense.
Posted on 3/30/26 at 1:34 pm to AUCom96
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No 'entry-level vehicles', hardly. It's all near 100K SUVs and trucks.
I feel like a reliable car or truck with decent horsepower but just bench cloth seats, manual windows, basic radio and AC/heat for 20k would sell big. No sensors, no fancy electronics. Just a vehicle to get you from A to B
Posted on 3/30/26 at 1:35 pm to Cosmo
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As long as people are willing to pay 80k for trucks and yukons the car industry will survive
These vehicles are way too expensive and as we are seeing they are defaulting at alarming rates.
Posted on 3/30/26 at 1:36 pm to DesScorp
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The problem is mainly one thing: cheap imported cars.
The answer is heavier tariffs.
Hell yes!
Let's drive the price for American consumers up over $100,000 for a basic vehicle.
See how many $17 an hour factory jobs we can create up in here.
Posted on 3/30/26 at 1:42 pm to wackatimesthree
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Let's drive the price for American consumers up over $100,000 for a basic vehicle.
If the only jobs you can get are greeting shoppers and stapling TOS reports, you'll be stuck in city busses.
Posted on 3/30/26 at 1:49 pm to Powerman
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That doesn't do anything to help the actual automakers. It's a way for dumb people to finance vehicles.
When they are doing the financing, yes it does.
Posted on 3/30/26 at 1:50 pm to Powerman
Yahoo is a leftist mouthpiece.
They're telling you about their goals
They're telling you about their goals
Posted on 3/30/26 at 1:55 pm to cdur86
is there really a 15 year term now? i saw a video the other day where a woman admitted she was paying a $1200 note on a honda pilot...
Posted on 3/30/26 at 1:59 pm to Powerman
I just need to go buy another 2006 Tundra to eventually scavenge for parts.
Posted on 3/30/26 at 1:59 pm to Pezzo
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is there really a 15 year term now?
No
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