re: Can someone explain the immigration “birthrate” argument to me?

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I use the most recent version of Claude for work.

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I do as well and agree that it's a powerful tool

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Anyone who thinks this won’t displace millions of jobs is kidding themselves. Claude works faster and more accurate than most admin staff I have dealt with.

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It still requires an operator to tell it what to do

At the end of the day Americans will find a way to be employed. We tend to adapt well.

I would say that outsourcing is a bigger threat to our future than immigration. With the caveat that we should absolutely crack down on illegal immigration and be more selective about the legal immigrants that we allow in.

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According to leftists and moderates, the west needs to combat declining birth rates with immigration. As the last 15-20 years have shown, that immigration is almost exclusively from third world countries with mostly illiterate, poor immigrants. How on earth would the type of people being imported do anything to offset the alleged effects of birth rate declines including lower tax base, less employees, etc. In other words, if I have 3 .300 + hitters that can play defense retiring next year, it probably doesn’t do my club any good to put the equipment managers in the lineup as replacements.

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The crazy thing is they all have it backwards in my opinion.



Less workers means higher salaries which would then equal more stable and settled young adults which means they are more likely to have kids and they will start replacing themselves.



People are waiting so long to have kids for two reasons.


1. They bought into feminism and became convinced that they “needed to be independent and successful in the workplace” before settling down.


2. They may not have bought into 1 but they bought into the lie that they had to be settled with a nest egg a home etc before they had kids. Thus rather than do what every generation before did and have kids in their 20s and early 30s and figure it out to provide for their offspring (which is a biological instinct) they wait too long and miss their window.





Number 1 may not be fixable but 2 is if they would behave as they did in the 50s and not import cheap workforce to do jobs Americans would do at adequate pay.



Think about it. It’s now extremely common to have not 1 but 2 working parents to afford the standard lifestyle AND they are still importing people to undercut those parents.

Our brand of capitalism requires endless growth

It's just the way it is

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Fun fact: There’s nothing wrong with population flattening out or even slightly declining. We don’t have to keep growing at an unsustainable rate.

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Powerman

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Agree.

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AI might not turn out to be the job displacing force that everyone thinks it will be

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If so, it won’t be for lack of want. All these CEOs, billionaires, and government leaders (stooges) want it bad.

You do need customers though

The tech companies need customers also

Both the general public and enterprise customers will be required for them to get real ROI on these mass investments

Mass unemployment = demand destruction

Mass unemployment caused by AI would make immigration (legal or not) pointless if the current population requires UBI in some form.