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re: CA to ban big rig diesel truck sales
Posted on 9/21/22 at 4:00 pm to alphaandomega
Posted on 9/21/22 at 4:00 pm to alphaandomega
quote:You might want to look at how much México has increased the capacity in their ports, particularly the deep water ones.
Mexico needs to build a GIANT port and a dedicated rail line to Arizona.
I’d be completely unsurprised to find significant numbers of Congress critters as shareholders.
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Posted on 9/21/22 at 4:02 pm to llfshoals
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I get you’re a moron son and don’t understand how things work. I’ll go slow for you.
If your supply chains are disrupted internally by idiocy (see California trucking policy), the shippers WILL do things less stupid to reduce costs. Whether they go through foreign ports or not, they won’t care. To reduce costs the vast majority of Americans won’t care either.
If they have to drop them on the west coast of Mexico, rail them to the east coast then put them on ships plying the gulf trade (which would majorly increase) which be IMO the best way to deal with a significant amount of the traffic. A fair amount is already doing this as well as using the rail routes into Texas.
As for less capacity, yes there’s less currently. Think if the demand isn’t there they won’t build more? They already are. For non-perishable items I can see using those alternatives ramping up considerably.
The California ports will still be able to use rail to send them on from the ports, until California gets stupid about that too.
Any bets they won’t?
I get you think that you're the smartest one in the room but no fricking shite.
Every single thing you just posted was common fricking sense. No one here is screaming "oh those poor shipping companies". Of course they'll do whatever it takes to lower costs. Every scenario you posted involves longer routes, backlogging undersized ports, gridlocked ports of entry, etc....which ends up costing the end user more money.
This post was edited on 9/21/22 at 4:04 pm
Posted on 9/21/22 at 4:05 pm to Quidam65
Freight will start flowing into other ports, including mexico to be moved by train
Posted on 9/21/22 at 4:06 pm to pankReb
They shouldn't stop with just trucks. They need to stop trains, jets, airplanes, ships, and all those evil vehicles with ICE's. People need to get out and walk, ride bikes, horses, etc.
Posted on 9/21/22 at 4:07 pm to wickowick
quote:
Freight will start flowing into other ports, including mexico to be moved by train
2040 is a long way from now
It's possible that there will be a substantial supply of electric big rigs by then
It's also possible that the total cost of operating all EVs will be greatly reduced
Posted on 9/21/22 at 4:07 pm to Quidam65
It’s bad because he very people that ducked that state up don’t want to live there anymore and are moving to other states and fricking them up. Like New Yorkers migrating to Florida.
Posted on 9/21/22 at 4:09 pm to dafif
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At least the safety rules will no longer apply. First, there will be no way to drive 11 hours in a 14 hour period and, second, it’s unlikely they can fully charge in the mandatory 10 hours off before driving again. Getting good from Cali to NY will take weeks
This is the moonshot for electric trucks. Can it drive for 11 hours with 80,000 gcw at highway speeds and recharge in 10 hours.
Posted on 9/21/22 at 4:10 pm to Quidam65
LMAO!!!!!!!!
Posted on 9/21/22 at 4:13 pm to Quidam65
What with all the present regulations and bureaucratic BS, independent truckers are already loathe to go to California as it is. Those people might succeed in completely cutting off what’s left of their supply chain from the rest of the USA.
Posted on 9/21/22 at 4:13 pm to CleverUserName
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t’s time to change that. The south needs to get to building ports that can handle large amounts of commerce. Line em up through the canal and let us offload em down here.
HOU, MIA, SAV, and NOR are pretty busy right now. Unfortunately, the Panama Canal is run by the Chynese, so they could put a stop to Southern Ports pretty quickly.
Posted on 9/21/22 at 4:22 pm to NCIS_76
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No. Let them scavenge for food. They did it to themselves.
That was more an option to avoid CA. I would say build a big port somewhere between Tijuana and Ensenada, MX. Then rail it to/thru Yuma, AZ.
Main issue with any MX option would be dealing with all the cartels wanting their piece to let the trains thru. Lets not forget the Chynese have been infiltrating MX too.
Posted on 9/21/22 at 4:23 pm to Powerman
quote:
Good thing nothing comes from there I guess
I can grow my own lettuce. California doesn't deserve my money.
Posted on 9/21/22 at 4:27 pm to Quidam65
They implement this immediately! The faster CA just implodes, the better. They’ll be burning horse and cow shite for power.
Posted on 9/21/22 at 6:58 pm to pankReb
quote:Which will still be less than dealing with California’s bullshite.
Every scenario you posted involves longer routes, backlogging undersized ports, gridlocked ports of entry, etc....which ends up costing the end user more money.
Also, you have to admit common sense is in short supply these days. Which is a big reason I tend to stick with simple solutions.
This post was edited on 9/21/22 at 7:08 pm
Posted on 9/21/22 at 7:02 pm to KAGTASTIC
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Lets not forget the Chynese have been infiltrating MX too.
Bigly
Posted on 9/21/22 at 7:09 pm to 14&Counting
After California fricked us last year, 100% of our product (not counting stuff retailers pick up themselves in FE) arrives in Savannah now. I hope others start considering east coast ports as an option.
Posted on 9/21/22 at 7:34 pm to Powerman
quote:You bet there will be, I’ll bet there won’t. I’ll even give you odds.
2040 is a long way from now It's possible that there will be a substantial supply of electric big rigs by then
I like my chances, a lot
Posted on 9/21/22 at 7:39 pm to Quidam65
Proposed solution: bypass California.
Mexico builds an ultra modern container cargo port on the Gulf of California to serve both Mexico and the USA. Rail lines specifically go to Texas. And then distribute the imports.
Limit the out of state electricity delivered to CA. Let them make their own.
Mexico builds an ultra modern container cargo port on the Gulf of California to serve both Mexico and the USA. Rail lines specifically go to Texas. And then distribute the imports.
Limit the out of state electricity delivered to CA. Let them make their own.
Posted on 9/21/22 at 8:08 pm to Powerman
quote:hope and change..such a fleeting memory
2040 is a long way from now
It's possible that there will be a substantial supply of electric big rigs by then
It's also possible that the total cost of operating all EVs will be greatly reduced
Posted on 9/21/22 at 8:36 pm to real turf fan
quote:You should look at what they’ve already done
Mexico builds an ultra modern container cargo port on the Gulf of California to serve both Mexico and the USA. Rail lines specifically go to Texas. And then distribute the imports.
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