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re: BREAKING: Virginia Circuit Court just ruled yesterday's redistricting Unconstitutional

Posted on 4/23/26 at 7:01 am to
Posted by deuceiswild
South La
Member since Nov 2007
5044 posts
Posted on 4/23/26 at 7:01 am to
quote:

It was on a statewide ballot...

The people voted on it...

It passed...

MAGA - That's "unconstitutional"!


There's simply no way that you believe that because an item was on a ballot and it was voted on (even if it had 100% support), that it therefore has to be legal and legit.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477013 posts
Posted on 4/23/26 at 7:10 am to
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Mr law and order sarcastically bowing to a judge trying to block a power play to subvert the actual representation of a purple state.




Yeah.. you're unbiased and impartial.

The main purpose of my earlier posts was to point out hypocrisy and intellectual dishonesty (the malleability of the L-word)
Posted by captainFid
Never apologize to barbarism
Member since Dec 2014
10588 posts
Posted on 4/23/26 at 7:23 am to
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Let's put it this way. I'm a layman and even I know the way that thing was worded was blatantly wrong and dishonest as hell.


I couldn't understand how that wording survived... now it turns out, it will be part of the lawsuits moving forward. I'm hoping the L's of Virginia, take an L, in the end.
Posted by mwade91383
Washington DC
Member since Mar 2010
7886 posts
Posted on 4/23/26 at 7:36 am to
Uuhhh what?

This is purely a state law question and it’ll get appealed to VA SC, NOT SCOTUS. The odds of it making it to scotus are virtually zero.

VA SC will of course side w Dems who have precedent on ther side. If you think this is getting overturned you’re nuts.
Posted by Hangit
The Green Swamp
Member since Aug 2014
46851 posts
Posted on 4/23/26 at 12:05 pm to
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R's held the majority from 1987 to 2019. D's have held it since.


Not in both chambers:


I was not speaking of either chamber. The question was specifically about the VA Supreme Court.
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
80527 posts
Posted on 4/23/26 at 12:17 pm to
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I was not speaking of either chamber. The question was specifically about the VA Supreme Court.


The VA Supreme Court is officially non-partisan, unlike other state supreme courts.

What I posted is accurate, please cease and desist confusing people with misinformation.
Posted by VoxDawg
Glory, Glory
Member since Sep 2012
77694 posts
Posted on 4/23/26 at 12:43 pm to
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VA SC will of course side w Dems who have precedent on ther side. If you think this is getting overturned you’re nuts.

The fraud appears to be off the charts, but let's not get bogged down by the tiniest of details like that.
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Posted by Bandit1980
God's Country
Member since Nov 2019
4616 posts
Posted on 4/23/26 at 12:45 pm to
This will likely end up at the SCOTUS.
Posted by mwade91383
Washington DC
Member since Mar 2010
7886 posts
Posted on 4/23/26 at 12:45 pm to
Good luck w that.
Posted by mwade91383
Washington DC
Member since Mar 2010
7886 posts
Posted on 4/23/26 at 12:48 pm to
There’s almost no chance it goes to SCOTUS. It’s not clear why people keep saying this.

It’ll go to the VIRGINIA Supreme Court (because it’s clearly a state issue) and that’s where Rs chances of getting this overturned will die.
Posted by BTROleMisser
Murica'
Member since Nov 2017
13760 posts
Posted on 4/23/26 at 12:51 pm to
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It’ll go to the VIRGINIA Supreme Court (because it’s clearly a state issue) and that’s where Rs chances of getting this overturned will die.


At least you hope so.
Posted by mwade91383
Washington DC
Member since Mar 2010
7886 posts
Posted on 4/23/26 at 1:00 pm to
I mean VA SC has already smacked this same judge (Jack Hurley, Tazewell) down on the same issue. Expecting it to be any different this time is for the birds.

But tell yourself whatever you want, man.
Posted by windhamtiger
Gonzales
Member since Sep 2022
487 posts
Posted on 4/23/26 at 1:08 pm to
Have you really studied your supreme Court in Virginia? I don't care what political affiliation have you looked at their decisions, their decisions or true constitutionalist true constitutionalist my sir or ma'am. More than likely they are going to rule in favor of the referendum being illegal. I once again ask you how much have you studied the supreme Court justices on the supreme Court of Virginia?
Posted by VoxDawg
Glory, Glory
Member since Sep 2012
77694 posts
Posted on 4/23/26 at 1:08 pm to
Nihilistic and retarded is no way to go through life, man.
Posted by mwade91383
Washington DC
Member since Mar 2010
7886 posts
Posted on 4/23/26 at 1:17 pm to
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Have you really studied your supreme Court in Virginia? I don't care what political affiliation have you looked at their decisions, their decisions or true constitutionalist true constitutionalist my sir or ma'am. More than likely they are going to rule in favor of the referendum being illegal. I once again ask you how much have you studied the supreme Court justices on the supreme Court of Virginia?


So your argument is the VA SC, who allowed the referendum to happen (after this same Tazewell judge tried to block and it was swifly crushed) will NOW, after 3mil Virginians have voted, are going to go back and say "yeah those maps were illegal"?

You cannot be this dense. You've gotta be a bot or something.


This post was edited on 4/23/26 at 1:18 pm
Posted by Hangit
The Green Swamp
Member since Aug 2014
46851 posts
Posted on 4/23/26 at 4:29 pm to
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The VA Supreme Court is officially non-partisan, unlike other state supreme courts.

What I posted is accurate, please cease and desist confusing people with misinformation.


The majority of justices were Dem's before they were justices. Justices were confirmed by Dem legislative bodies. I hope you are no longer confused.

Nothing I said was"misinformation"
Posted by vl100butch
Ridgeland, MS
Member since Sep 2005
37100 posts
Posted on 4/23/26 at 4:45 pm to
I'm borrowing the explanation below from a Facebook post made by someone I got direct commissioned in 2003. This lays out all the procedural rules broken by the Democrats to get this on the ballot.

quote:

Here’s a plain-English breakdown of the procedural violations that torpedoed the Democratic redistricting amendment in court today.
Judge Hurley didn’t rule on whether the new maps were fair or unfair—he ruled that Democrats broke clear constitutional rules on how you’re allowed to change the Virginia State Constitution. Each violation was fatal on its own. Every procedural safeguard in the Virginia State Constitution was ignored — and now the Democrats’ power play lies in ruins.

They snuck it into the wrong special session. Virginia law says special sessions can only cover exactly what the Governor called for—just the state budget. Democrats tried sneaking the redistricting amendment in anyway. The judge ruled it was never allowed to be there.

They skipped the required House of Delegates election. The Virginia State Constitution demands a full House election between the first and second votes so voters can weigh in with new lawmakers. They ignored that mandatory step completely. Second vote invalid.

They blew off the required 90-day public notice. State law demands the amendment be posted at every courthouse for 90 days before the second vote. They ignored it completely, so the 2026 vote didn’t count.
The ballot question was flagrantly misleading. The Virginia State Constitution requires the question to fairly describe exactly what voters are approving. Democrats used wording that made it sound like a simple “restore fairness” fix while hiding the real details. Judge called it out cold.
They held the election too soon. The Virginia State Constitution requires at least 90 days between final passage and voting. Early voting launched March 6—way too early. They started voting before the required waiting period ended.

The election bill tried to do too many things at once. Virginia law allows only one main subject per bill, clearly stated in the title. HB 1384 crammed the election date, ballot language, funding, and extra rules into one overloaded bill under a vague title. Single-subject rule violated.
The bill dictated local voting offices the legislature isn’t allowed to touch.

The Virginia State Constitution bans special laws telling cities and counties exactly where to put polling places. HB 1384 ordered specific satellite offices anyway, going beyond what the legislature is allowed to do. Judge struck it down.

Bottom line: These weren’t nitpicks—they were the Virginia State Constitution’s guardrails. Democrats tried to push straight through them anyway. Judge Hurley slammed the emergency brake hard: voided the amendment, chucked every vote from yesterday’s election, and permanently killed the new maps. The case now rockets to the Virginia Supreme Court, but right now the old maps stay locked in place. Turns out even in politics, you still gotta follow the damn rulebook. Who knew?
And to all the lawyers out there—sorry for the excessive metaphors and the runaway-freight-train energy. I know you’d rather have pinpoint citations than kegs at dry weddings, but sometimes a little color helps the rest of us picture how the Virginia State Constitution’s guardrails actually work. No offense intended!
Jon Castonguay

Posted by Neutral Underground
Member since Mar 2024
3384 posts
Posted on 4/23/26 at 5:45 pm to
Hell yeah! Republicans should have still voted down the bill.
Posted by laxtonto
Member since Mar 2011
2787 posts
Posted on 4/23/26 at 5:52 pm to
The entire reason the Virginia SC allowed this to go to a vote is that if it was voted down, the point would have been moot to begin with and no action would be needed.

Yes, the common person finds that asinine, but to the court it is better to not have to make a decision that might inadvertently lead to some unthought about weird precedent that comes about as a byproduct of making the decision.

Now we will see if they actually follow through with that train of thought or try and chicken out and hide behind the old adage of it was wrong to have done it that way, but the people have spoken and we don’t want to invalidate an election and therefore disenfranchise voters…
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
80527 posts
Posted on 4/24/26 at 9:41 am to
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Justices were confirmed by Dem legislative bodies. I hope you are no longer confused.

Nothing I said was"misinformation"



That's not accurate; so yes it's misinformation.

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