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re: Breaking: Supreme Court Blocks Trump’s Use of Alien Enemies Act to Deport Illegals

Posted on 4/19/25 at 8:56 am to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 4/19/25 at 8:56 am to
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I think you guys are overestimating the public’s concern over this guy’s gang ties. What the public sees is this administration wagging its finger at court orders.

Correct and correct
Posted by Vandyrone
Nashville, TN
Member since Dec 2012
7983 posts
Posted on 4/19/25 at 8:57 am to
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This reads like they just want to hold up deportations until a ruling is made. This is not a final ruling, it’s still pending before the fifth circuit.

Fifth Circuit is Texas, Louisiana, MS and is conservative leaning.

This.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
79453 posts
Posted on 4/19/25 at 8:57 am to
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Low iq illegal immigrants have more rights than actual American citizens.


what do you think this ruling says?

what do you think it does?
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
65894 posts
Posted on 4/19/25 at 9:00 am to
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I think you guys are overestimating the public’s concern over this guy’s gang ties.


We aren't.
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
85685 posts
Posted on 4/19/25 at 9:01 am to
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I think you guys are overestimating the public’s concern over this guy’s gang ties. What the public sees is this administration wagging its finger at court orders.


And no one is arguing for him to stay here on his own merit. Return him, present him to a neutral magistrate along with the evidence on his gang ties, and argue for the removal of the hold order.

Seems like they have enough to get the hold removed and then send him on the next plane out.

But the process is what everyone sees being flouted and it’s not hard to imagine where that can go next.

The hardest cases to argue for the rule of law are the ones with the most repugnant defendants. Same thing as defending free speech.
This post was edited on 4/19/25 at 9:04 am
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
122921 posts
Posted on 4/19/25 at 9:01 am to
Yep
Posted by Hognutz
Member since Sep 2018
2662 posts
Posted on 4/19/25 at 9:04 am to
What am I waking up to here... wtf
Posted by NashvilleTider
Your Mom
Member since Jan 2007
15776 posts
Posted on 4/19/25 at 9:05 am to
This was always going to be hard and the fight of our lives - Trump is actually trying to save the country - he will prevail
Posted by I20goon
about 7mi down a dirt road
Member since Aug 2013
19829 posts
Posted on 4/19/25 at 9:05 am to
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And no one is arguing for him to stay here on his own merit. Return him, present him to a neutral magistrate along with the evidence on his gang ties, and argue for the removal of the hold order.

Seems like they have enough to get the hold removed and then send him on the next plane out.

But the process is what everyone sees being flouted and it’s not hard to imagine where that can go next.

The hardest cases to argue for the rule of law are the ones with the most repugnant defendants.
The arguments, in my amateur opinion, the Trump admin use are simultaneously practical and fit their true feelings on the subject (e.g. he's a gang member and should be removed) but legally are leaving themselves open to alot of this.

This case COULD have been as simple as....

He was here illegally (already had 2 hearings for the "but muh process people) and was thus returned to his country of origin. Period. No need for all the extemporaneous info. No need to pile on.
Posted by RohanGonzales
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Member since Apr 2024
10711 posts
Posted on 4/19/25 at 9:08 am to
https://twitchy.com/warren-squire/2025/04/19/stephen-miller-presser-nationhood-battle-n2411597


"Stephen Miller: Democrats View Americans as ‘Acceptable Collateral Damage’ in War Against Citizenship"


This is why the nitpicking is so important while the damage done by illegals doesn't really matter to the people that never appear in those threads.
Posted by RohanGonzales
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Member since Apr 2024
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Posted on 4/19/25 at 9:11 am to
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
74886 posts
Posted on 4/19/25 at 9:12 am to
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They're showing in polling they don't support it happening THIS way.


you don’t know that.

talking out your arse again
Posted by Meauxjeaux
102836 posts including my alters
Member since Jun 2005
46965 posts
Posted on 4/19/25 at 9:13 am to
All that said is 5th has to rule first. Then it can be brought to USSC.

Posted by BCreed1
Alabama
Member since Jan 2024
6994 posts
Posted on 4/19/25 at 9:15 am to
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No we're discussing the legal process


No we aren't. You are just a total loser!
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
115483 posts
Posted on 4/19/25 at 9:18 am to
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All that said is 5th has to rule first. Then it can be brought to USSC.


But it also grants an injunction against the removal of ANY of the putative class members until then (not just removal under the AEA).

If you are going to essentially grant the relief, you may as well take up the case
Posted by ManBearSharkReb
Member since Dec 2018
6224 posts
Posted on 4/19/25 at 9:18 am to
Using ad hominem when you have no argument. Impressive.
Posted by BCreed1
Alabama
Member since Jan 2024
6994 posts
Posted on 4/19/25 at 9:20 am to
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using EO and emergency decrees to do things when he has both houses of Congress is just dumb.


That's really a huge statement of ignorance.


Congress has already acted. In fact, the US Constitution grants Congress the primary power to regulate immigration, including naturalization, but also outlines the President's role in enforcing these laws and exercising discretionary powers. The President has broad authority to suspend the entry of certain aliens deemed detrimental to the US, and to administer immigration laws through executive actions like deferred action.


Posted by WonderWartHawg
Member since Dec 2010
10799 posts
Posted on 4/19/25 at 9:20 am to
We have in effect been invaded by several foreign countries, allowed by Joe Biden and his handlers.
The invaders have no more rights than to be safely escorted back to their countries.
This is a war for our country.
This post was edited on 4/19/25 at 9:21 am
Posted by Big4SALTbro
Member since Jun 2019
24436 posts
Posted on 4/19/25 at 9:21 am to
ACB was a huge mistake.

Posted by hogcard1964
Alabama
Member since Jan 2017
20026 posts
Posted on 4/19/25 at 9:23 am to
Did she side against the country again?
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