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re: BREAKING ON Reuters: Trump plan to offer citizenship to 1.8 million illegal immigrants
Posted on 1/25/18 at 5:15 pm to conservativewifeymom
Posted on 1/25/18 at 5:15 pm to conservativewifeymom
No way that Stephen Miller signed off on this.
I know the wall is a big deal to a lot of people, but amnesty for 1.8 million (which will almost certainly increase significantly, just as it did in '86) shouldn't be exchanged for anything less than mandatory eVerify for all businesses, elimination of H1B visas, an complete end to the diversity lottery and significant reductions in legal immigration.
We are the third most populous nation in the history of mankind. We don't need more people here.
ETA: limit "birthright citizenship" to children born to women who can prove they have been legal resident aliens for at least one full calendar year. Being a US citizen is a precious and extremely valuable commodity, we shouldnt be giving it away.
I know the wall is a big deal to a lot of people, but amnesty for 1.8 million (which will almost certainly increase significantly, just as it did in '86) shouldn't be exchanged for anything less than mandatory eVerify for all businesses, elimination of H1B visas, an complete end to the diversity lottery and significant reductions in legal immigration.
We are the third most populous nation in the history of mankind. We don't need more people here.
ETA: limit "birthright citizenship" to children born to women who can prove they have been legal resident aliens for at least one full calendar year. Being a US citizen is a precious and extremely valuable commodity, we shouldnt be giving it away.
This post was edited on 1/25/18 at 5:19 pm
Posted on 1/25/18 at 5:16 pm to conservativewifeymom
If they are picking chickens, they can stay. It would cost us more to bury the citizens who would rather starve to death than pick chickens.
Posted on 1/25/18 at 5:18 pm to FearlessFreep
Where do you see "amnesty" in the proposal?
Posted on 1/25/18 at 5:20 pm to Lsupimp
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I have personally never spoken with any person who does not have At least grudging respect for their work ethic. But that’s not the issue here .
I don't get this. Their work ethic is awful. They may work hard. They may work long hours. But the quality of the work is awful. What sort of ethic is that?
Posted on 1/25/18 at 5:21 pm to conservativewifeymom
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Trump plan to offer citizenship to 1.8 million illegal immigrants
I can reluctantly support this if.....
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require Congress to limit family sponsorship of immigrants to spouses and minor children
Nope. End it completely. Nothing at all.
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end a visa lottery system for certain countries,
Not certain, end it entirely for all countries.
Posted on 1/25/18 at 5:22 pm to LSURussian
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Where do you see "amnesty" in the proposal?
Posted on 1/25/18 at 5:22 pm to starsandstripes
All the Mexican trades guys on job sites do terrible work ?
Posted on 1/25/18 at 5:22 pm to mwade91383
I sure af don't like this plan
Posted on 1/25/18 at 5:23 pm to CajunAlum Tiger Fan
Oh, the Moors.
Got it now!
Posted on 1/25/18 at 5:24 pm to Lou Pai
It's not amnesty, it's amnesty's non-union Mexican equivalent
So, uh, amnistia I guess
So, uh, amnistia I guess
Posted on 1/25/18 at 5:25 pm to starsandstripes
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I don't get this. Their work ethic is awful. They may work hard. They may work long hours. But the quality of the work is awful. What sort of ethic is that?
It's okay. They are all going to work hard to get to the polls and vote R now, apparently.
Posted on 1/25/18 at 5:25 pm to starsandstripes
nm dp lol
This post was edited on 1/25/18 at 5:27 pm
Posted on 1/25/18 at 5:26 pm to PsychTiger
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I could be on board as long as citizenship isn’t granted for, say, 15 years. Of course, if they break any additional laws during that period they are a gone pecan.quote:
Also, no voting rights during the 15 year probationary period.
Mandatory two years civics and economics classes designed by the Foundation Of Economic Education, plus a minimum six months tour of duty in the U.S. Military.
Consequence of being caught illegally voting during that probationary period shall be: Hanging by the neck until dead.
Feel free to add to these stipulations.
Posted on 1/25/18 at 5:27 pm to Themole
Everyone stacking on more demands to something that's gonna need to move left to get 9 Dem votes 
Posted on 1/25/18 at 5:30 pm to mwade91383
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That’s a lot of people. His base won’t like it.
I'd need to know that it won't flip any states blue. If not, I'm ok with it. Gotta give up something to get something.
Posted on 1/25/18 at 5:31 pm to conservativewifeymom
Truth is we've needed Mexicans for a long time. Native born Americans won't do the jobs they do. They just won't (it's a fact). The question is how many do we need and what should the requirements be for their visas and/or a path to citizenship? I am fine with a 10-12 year probationary period with no serious criminal record and a stable work history.
However, we must build a wall and tightly control future immigration.
However, we must build a wall and tightly control future immigration.
Posted on 1/25/18 at 5:32 pm to conservativewifeymom
Don't know what I expected in this thread. If America makes it another 20 years, we will flourish after you fools die of some cause fit for a keyboard warrior. Now if Donnie would just give up on that dumb arse wall and negotiate for something worth a damn... 
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