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re: BREAKING ON Reuters: Trump plan to offer citizenship to 1.8 million illegal immigrants
Posted on 1/25/18 at 4:58 pm to conservativewifeymom
Posted on 1/25/18 at 4:58 pm to conservativewifeymom
Whether the family visas are reallocated or reduced makes a big difference and I'm finding conflicting information so 
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Posted on 1/25/18 at 4:58 pm to Cosmo
quote:
The dreamers can stay as long as they provide proof of employment but they cant vote and cant access entitlements.
They can stay if they can provide proof of a family member (that is not an anchor baby) legally living in the US and that they have a job, car insurance and will be required to pay taxes...
And yes, they can't vote.
This post was edited on 1/25/18 at 4:59 pm
Posted on 1/25/18 at 4:59 pm to conservativewifeymom
The Democrats can learn from this. This is how Trump negotiates if you give me something I'll give you something but if you are going to act like a spoiled child you will get your arse beat down in front of everyone.
I got no problem with giving in as long as we get the wall and the infrastructure funding.
I got no problem with giving in as long as we get the wall and the infrastructure funding.
This post was edited on 1/25/18 at 5:00 pm
Posted on 1/25/18 at 5:00 pm to ChineseBandit58
quote:
They should certainly be vetted severely - and be completely self sufficient - and have become completely assimilated into the American culture. None of this 'enclave' shite allowed.
What is this "American culture" you speak of...?
Posted on 1/25/18 at 5:02 pm to conservativewifeymom
Classic negotiation. They go low he goes high. They should meet in the middle but lawyers are kind of dumb when negotiating so the dems will come out looking very bad. Just watch
Posted on 1/25/18 at 5:02 pm to conservativewifeymom
The rationalization by the Trumpcucks in here trying to back into the answer is ridiculous.
No means no.
End DACA.
No Dreamers.
Trump sucks arse
No means no.
End DACA.
No Dreamers.
Trump sucks arse
Posted on 1/25/18 at 5:03 pm to conservativewifeymom
quote:
end a visa lottery system for certain countries
Not good enough. No lottery unless those entered in it have been screened for acceptability.
Posted on 1/25/18 at 5:03 pm to conservativewifeymom
Deporting every single illegal we can find would be much more of a deterrent than a wall. America is too nice, and that is our downfall. Political correctness is an agenda of the elite, I can't fathom how people can't understand that. Political correctness breaks down the sovereignty of nations. This current mindset was implanted with a specific purpose, a one government world.
Posted on 1/25/18 at 5:04 pm to Lou Pai
quote:Yeah I figure if a deal is making me go "hmmm... it depends" it probably isn't going to satisfy the hardliners
The rationalization by the Trumpcucks in here trying to back into the answer is ridiculous.
Posted on 1/25/18 at 5:04 pm to conservativewifeymom
frick citizenship. They can never vote, and they can never bring anyone else into this country. They're only allowed to stay without being deported. One crime and over the walk they go.
Oh, and the wall needs to happen. frick a trust fund.
Oh, and the wall needs to happen. frick a trust fund.
Posted on 1/25/18 at 5:06 pm to HotCigarette
Limiting a non-citizen to only sponsor a spouse and minor children is the current law. What’s the change there?
Limiting the diversity lotttery to SOME countries? That does not sound merit-based to me.
We have been down this road in the 80s. One side got amnesty and the other got nothing. Everything that was agreed upon in return for amnesty was removed over time.
Please learn from the mistakes of the past. Put a clause in the agreement that not a single dreamer will become a citizen until the Wall is COMPLETED. Also, if any of the other parts of the agreement are nullified or overturned, then the legal residence status of all will be revoked and they will be deported. The law must have some teeth and consequences if it is not honored.
Limiting the diversity lotttery to SOME countries? That does not sound merit-based to me.
We have been down this road in the 80s. One side got amnesty and the other got nothing. Everything that was agreed upon in return for amnesty was removed over time.
Please learn from the mistakes of the past. Put a clause in the agreement that not a single dreamer will become a citizen until the Wall is COMPLETED. Also, if any of the other parts of the agreement are nullified or overturned, then the legal residence status of all will be revoked and they will be deported. The law must have some teeth and consequences if it is not honored.
Posted on 1/25/18 at 5:07 pm to TigersSEC2010
quote:
They're allowed to stay
frick
No
And frick anyone who thinks they should stay
Posted on 1/25/18 at 5:10 pm to Lou Pai
LINK
quote:Lol it's gonna be glorious if this deal gets publicly sunk by House Republicans and drives Trump back into the arms of Chuck and Nancy
House Rs not happy w/this new WH immigration plan -> "This is the beginning of the end of the GOP majority in the House. In a year when the Democrats impeach Trump, we can point to this moment," one R on the call tells me.
This post was edited on 1/25/18 at 5:12 pm
Posted on 1/25/18 at 5:12 pm to Iosh
Cucked by Chuck?
I mean can you even imagine
I mean can you even imagine
Posted on 1/25/18 at 5:13 pm to Iosh
quote:Are you open to a friendly wager that that won'r happen? Maybe a sig quote bet?
it's gonna be glorious if this deal gets publicly sunk by House Republicans and drives Trump back into the arms of Chuck and Nancy
Posted on 1/25/18 at 5:14 pm to LSURussian
Nah I doubt it will that was just some wishcasting
Posted on 1/25/18 at 5:14 pm to Iosh
Pussy troll...
Posted on 1/25/18 at 5:14 pm to conservativewifeymom
Congratulations Democrats
Posted on 1/25/18 at 5:15 pm to LSURussian
Not my fault you read the word "if" as "when"
Posted on 1/25/18 at 5:15 pm to Tigers0891
In general, most liberals are hesitant to publicly say they want a path to citizenship for illegals in this country. I think the general population will accept citizenship for the Dreamers, but not for the other 12, errrr, 30 million illegal immigrants in this country.
I still think that one of Hillary Clinton's biggest screwups that nobody talks about is when within the first minute or so of her acceptance speech at the DNC, she proclaimed that she would seek a pathway to citizenship for all illegal immigrants, while not mentioning any plans for increased border security. That really hit home with a lot of middle class workers. I know she has wanted that for a long time, but she played that card too soon. It wasn't time to start talking about amnesty for all illegals. She was trying to appeal to the Hispanic community, but I think that statement hurt her more than helped her.
This is their ultimate goal, as they want 30 million voters. I will take 1.8 million voters. If 75% of them vote Democrat, then that is a net of 900,000 votes. Many of those will be in California and New York, which doesn't game them anything.
I also believe that President Trump isn't talking about immediate citizenship, but rather a pathway to citizenship that will take years.
I still think that one of Hillary Clinton's biggest screwups that nobody talks about is when within the first minute or so of her acceptance speech at the DNC, she proclaimed that she would seek a pathway to citizenship for all illegal immigrants, while not mentioning any plans for increased border security. That really hit home with a lot of middle class workers. I know she has wanted that for a long time, but she played that card too soon. It wasn't time to start talking about amnesty for all illegals. She was trying to appeal to the Hispanic community, but I think that statement hurt her more than helped her.
This is their ultimate goal, as they want 30 million voters. I will take 1.8 million voters. If 75% of them vote Democrat, then that is a net of 900,000 votes. Many of those will be in California and New York, which doesn't game them anything.
I also believe that President Trump isn't talking about immediate citizenship, but rather a pathway to citizenship that will take years.
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