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re: Breaking: Kari Lake loses trial to overturn Arizona Governor election - Vows to appeal

Posted on 12/27/22 at 5:01 pm to
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
35948 posts
Posted on 12/27/22 at 5:01 pm to
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Yeah that’s not true at all. She still made appearances and lots of ads for her on tv. Also lots of ads against Kari Lake. She also had a rally here in PHX where Obama spoke


For someone tied or losing in every poll she was very quiet.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
139071 posts
Posted on 12/27/22 at 5:02 pm to
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Serious question, NCT - is that what I’ve argued? Ever? That there were no machine failures, no delays and no lines?

No.
Hyperbole on my part, and apparently most offensive to you than intended. Sorry.

I am extremely frustrated with repeated episodes of extraordinarily odd vote results, accompanied by extraordinarily odd ED occurrences, and a complete lack of national intellectual curiosity as to cause.

The fact that AZ would vote for a person so incompetent she refused to debate her opponent is surprising to me. The fact that the vote took several weeks to compile is surprising to me. The fact AZ is willing to accept the kind of BS that seems to go down in its recent elections is surprising to me.

It appears no one is going to seriously pursue those issues, and most are going to oppose serious investigation, as AZ did in 2020. I care far far less about the outcome than I do about the fairness of it.

I am unconfident the AZ result indicates the AZ intent. I am totally confident the result indicates the desired result of a socialist press-IC-democrat cabal.
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
36760 posts
Posted on 12/27/22 at 5:03 pm to
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Too much truth for a lot of people here

I wouldn’t quite deem those remarks to which you replied “truth” or really anything else until what I believe is a critical issue is touched upon.

I’d like to get an honest opinion on the specific topic of this purported healthy number of Arizona rightist voters who are “not fans of MAGA politics.” The key issue being whether that segment are not fans due to actual policy differences, or rather due to the notion that they simply don’t want to be associated with the perception of how their peers view “MAGA.” Perhaps a belief that, given their own personal mental picture of what MAGA supporters “look like,” that they’re higher in the social strata than “MAGA people.”

Which to me the latter of those would be much more dismaying than anything else, because of course how shallow that thought process would be. And honestly, I suspect that is indeed more so the case than the other. That would be an unfortunate reflection on them, and no one else.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
63111 posts
Posted on 12/27/22 at 5:03 pm to
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ummm, as an It worker i troubleshoot production systems and have teams that troubleshoot on production systems everyday.



Troubleshoot "AND MAKE CHANGES". You conveniently left that part off.

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In the ITIL framework there's even a process called emergency change where you deliver on the spot changes so fast that you retroactively enter your change controls after the changes are made. the goal of good IT process is uptime. so if service is down, you bet your arse people show up and work on the production systems to try and restore services....happens every day my man. Things break, and someone has to fix them. you can't always wait if it's broken.



I'm going to let you stand on this humorous suggestion that changing the format of the ballot on the fly in the middle of the election is a reasonable action.

It's 100% not. And, the system should not even allow it. Low level techs certainly should have that access. And, they certainly shouldn't be able to do it without being directed and approved (this is the testimony).
Posted by LSU2ALA
Member since Jul 2018
2071 posts
Posted on 12/27/22 at 5:04 pm to
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I’m just a caveman lawyer, your world frightens and confuses me.


I love the pic. I miss Phil Hartman. He was so funny.

To your other point, I agree there are many issues that could be solved by common sense on both sides, but both sides are so dug in that the other is pure evil and wants to end America that it’s impossible to work together. It makes me sad.
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2010
26833 posts
Posted on 12/27/22 at 5:05 pm to
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I was speaking more to the flaccid way you responded by simply offering “judge said so” as if he is God himself.



But that's not all I said. I quoted the other cases the judge cited...
Posted by LSU2ALA
Member since Jul 2018
2071 posts
Posted on 12/27/22 at 5:06 pm to
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Lake already had her MAGA vote. What did she do to try and win the AZ independents and McCain Republicans? Nothing. She even told one group (McCain Republicans) to go to hell and not vote for her. So knowing that….you are surprised that she lost? Really?


She owned the libs so that’s worth at least eleventy billion votes so that’s all that’s needed. Clearly she was cheated.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
173802 posts
Posted on 12/27/22 at 5:06 pm to
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Debate Hobbs.

Any other questions?

No but your answer is pretty weak
Posted by lsunurse
Member since Dec 2005
129146 posts
Posted on 12/27/22 at 5:06 pm to
Hobbs wasn’t quiet….she just wasn’t trying to be on a national stage like Lake is.

Please tell me what experience Lake even has to be Governor?

Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
139071 posts
Posted on 12/27/22 at 5:07 pm to
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you could feel free to go back and answer some of mine that you avoided and changed the subject on.

Did I miss it?

Repost it or link it.
Posted by Crimson1st
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2010
21123 posts
Posted on 12/27/22 at 5:07 pm to
I’ve been paying but and pieces of attention to all this. Not that it isn’t important but it’s infuriating how the left/cuck “right” have schemed to rig elections in some states these days, namely important swing states. The powers that be start the cheat…then the media and TPTB join forces to pressure officials who see trouble and/or in a position to thwart the cheating with having them get in a legal bind or marginalized as a kook conspiracy nut.

It’s plain as day to see what’s going on…no way this “judge” in this case heard the evidence and ruled impartially…zero chance. And those cheaters absolutely know this set up is damn near fool-proof at this point. It’s all a load of BS.
Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
82444 posts
Posted on 12/27/22 at 5:08 pm to

Hi Nurse, not used to seeing over here.

Are you still tossing pugs into snowbanks?
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
173802 posts
Posted on 12/27/22 at 5:08 pm to
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I wouldn’t quite deem those remarks to which you replied “truth” or really anything else until what I believe is a critical issue is touched upon.

I’d like to get an honest opinion on the specific topic of this purported healthy number of Arizona rightist voters who are “not fans of MAGA politics.” The key issue being whether that segment are not fans due to actual policy differences, or rather due to the notion that they simply don’t want to be associated with the perception of how their peers view “MAGA.” Perhaps a belief that, given their own personal mental picture of what MAGA supporters “look like,” that they’re higher in the social strata than “MAGA people.”

Which to me the latter of those would be much more dismaying than anything else, because of course how shallow that thought process would be. And honestly, I suspect that is indeed more so the case than the other. That would be an unfortunate reflection on them, and no one else.

I think the bigger point here is it's pretty plausible that Lake legitimately lost the election
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
36760 posts
Posted on 12/27/22 at 5:08 pm to
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I love the pic. I miss Phil Hartman. He was so funny.

To your other point, I agree there are many issues that could be solved by common sense on both sides, but both sides are so dug in that the other is pure evil and wants to end America that it’s impossible to work together. It makes me sad.

Agreed on all counts, my good man.
Posted by LSU2ALA
Member since Jul 2018
2071 posts
Posted on 12/27/22 at 5:09 pm to
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Lake led in the vast majority of polls right up to Election Day and Hobbs was never outside margin of error and yet Hobbs never even bothered to make a public appearance. Dont act like it was a runaway for Hobbs and a foregone conclusion.


So this thread now has conservatives citing media reports and polls. This is clearly Bizarro world.
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2010
26833 posts
Posted on 12/27/22 at 5:09 pm to
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For someone tied or losing in every poll she was very quiet.



She outspent Lake by a pretty wide margin.
Posted by lsunurse
Member since Dec 2005
129146 posts
Posted on 12/27/22 at 5:09 pm to
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Hi Nurse, not used to seeing over here. Are you still tossing pugs into snowbanks?
m
I’m only here cause of the AZ stuff

Butters is 15 now so no more pug tossing for the old man
Posted by lsunurse
Member since Dec 2005
129146 posts
Posted on 12/27/22 at 5:11 pm to
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So this thread now has conservatives citing media reports and polls.


What about the 2016 Presidential election polls?

Guess if we go by their basis that polls are 100% accurate Clinton should have won right?
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
63111 posts
Posted on 12/27/22 at 5:12 pm to
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so since all you would like to discuss is printers. lets talk about your personal experience with printers.

do you find that the printer always work? have you ever had a printer work and then not work later? In this case who was sabotaging the printer? How were you able to complete the work of whatever needed printing?



Replacing a printer is reasonable. It's a dumb device that is interchangeable.

Changing software setting that result in the layout of the ballot being changed is not.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
42653 posts
Posted on 12/27/22 at 5:15 pm to
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never went to a rally, or campaigned at all?

Yeah that’s not true at all


Somebody lied?
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