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re: Breaking: Kari Lake loses trial to overturn Arizona Governor election - Vows to appeal
Posted on 12/25/22 at 11:40 am to lsunurse
Posted on 12/25/22 at 11:40 am to lsunurse
quote:damn girl you on a roll this CHristmas day.
Yay! It is a very Merry Christmas after all
Let her move to FL to continue sucking Trump’s dick, we are tired of her losing arse in Arizona
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Posted on 12/25/22 at 11:55 am to David_DJS
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There was testimony, and it wasn’t pushed back on by Team Lake, that all the loading up, transport, offloading, unpacking, then processing of box 3 ballots occurred with a Republican (and Dem) observer present.
Going off of memory but this was part of the problem. The Maricopa county folks couldn’t produce the chain of custody documents that validated this happened.
The tabulators should have worked but the ballot images were jacked up. BUT the votes were counted via Box 3 so it’s all good, right? Except the chain of custody paperwork for the secure transfer of those votes doesn’t exist.
Technically all those things should have happened but to quote Jason Ard, “if you didn’t write it down, it didn’t happen”.
Posted on 12/25/22 at 11:57 am to eitek1
quote:
Going off of memory but this was part of the problem. The Maricopa county folks couldn’t produce the chain of custody documents that validated this happened.
The ruling by the judge basically says that Maricopa has the document it exists and was generated. They didn't respond to the info request. So lake could go after the county for failure to respond to the information request as a separate issue.
Posted on 12/25/22 at 12:01 pm to lsunurse
quote:
lsunurse
this is you. the jackass in this story along with your groomer ilk:
The donkey told the tiger, "The grass is blue."
The tiger replied, "No, the grass is green ."
The discussion became heated, and the two decided to submit the issue to arbitration, so they approached the lion.
As they approached the lion on his throne, the donkey started screaming: ''Your Highness, isn't it true that the grass is blue?"
The lion replied: "If you believe it is true, the grass is blue."
The donkey rushed forward and continued: ''The tiger disagrees with me, contradicts me and annoys me. Please punish him."
The king then declared: ''The tiger will be punished with 3 days of silence."
The donkey jumped with joy and went on his way, content and repeating ''The grass is blue, the grass is blue..."
The tiger asked the lion, "Your Majesty, why have you punished me, after all, the grass is green?"
The lion replied, ''You've known and seen the grass is green."
The tiger asked, ''So why do you punish me?"
The lion replied, "That has nothing to do with the question of whether the grass is blue or green. The punishment is because it is degrading for a brave, intelligent creature like you to waste time arguing with an arse, and on top of that, you came and bothered me with that question just to validate something you already knew was true!"
The biggest waste of time is arguing with the fool and fanatic who doesn't care about truth or reality, but only the victory of his beliefs and illusions. Never waste time on discussions that make no sense. There are people who, for all the evidence presented to them, do not have the ability to understand.
Others who are blinded by ego, hatred and resentment, and the only thing that they want is to be right even if they aren’t.
When IGNORANCE SCREAMS, intelligence moves on.
Posted on 12/25/22 at 12:10 pm to Fat Bastard
I ain’t reading that whole wall of text 
Keep up with the name calling of someone who dares to have a difference of opinion though, y’all resort to it every single time on this board.
Doesn’t matter to me though…pitch all the hissy name calling fits y’all want….Kari Lake will still NOT be my Governor
Merry Christmas
Keep up with the name calling of someone who dares to have a difference of opinion though, y’all resort to it every single time on this board.
Doesn’t matter to me though…pitch all the hissy name calling fits y’all want….Kari Lake will still NOT be my Governor
Merry Christmas
This post was edited on 12/25/22 at 12:11 pm
Posted on 12/25/22 at 12:18 pm to LSU2ALA
quote:
I would argue that the first debate badly hurt Trump.
I agree with that. It was an exceptionally bad performance when he needed the squishy middle vote.
Posted on 12/25/22 at 12:19 pm to oklahogjr
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Who is the user being tracked? Like the voter themselves? Or are you saying ballots are adjudicated without proper over site by teams from both parties?
The adjudicator of the ballot isn’t tracked.
Posted on 12/25/22 at 12:21 pm to eitek1
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The tabulators should have worked but the ballot images were jacked up. BUT the votes were counted via Box 3 so it’s all good, right? Except the chain of custody paperwork for the secure transfer of those votes doesn’t exist.
It’s just a shell game. Move the evidence behind enough legal maneuvers and then the kaffeeklatsch crew says “It’s a conspiracy theory, guys!”
Posted on 12/25/22 at 12:26 pm to the808bass
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The adjudicator of the ballot isn’t tracked.
I'm confused, so the adjudicators aren't observed? Or they just aren't documented and written down ballot by ballot. What's the deficiency on today's process of live streaming it with in person observation from both sides?
I'm looking for specifics here in the right context of the election process of what is wrong and how it should be improved.
Posted on 12/25/22 at 12:40 pm to eitek1
quote:
he tabulators should have worked but the ballot images were jacked up. BUT the votes were counted via Box 3 so it’s all good, right? Except the chain of custody paperwork for the secure transfer of those votes doesn’t exist.
Why didn’t Lake’s team press this? My guess is because Republicans were there while everything was handled/processed even if documented chain of custody is lacking.
Somewhere along the line, you need to be able to explain with specifics exactly how the cheating happened. Right now there’s suspicion and speculation, but do you expect a judge to rule for a revote because something could have happened?
Posted on 12/25/22 at 1:07 pm to Mickey Goldmill
He wanted to live, not get Seth rich'd
Posted on 12/25/22 at 1:13 pm to Wednesday
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I read the opinion. The judge made factual findings. Kari Lake can appeal all she wants- but the findings will be sustained on appeal. She should have won, but didn’t. I’m concerned for you, Arizona. I love that state. It’s beautiful. I’m so sorry for all of you getting stuck with a corrupt and incompetent aging Valley Girl running it into the ground. Your government has been seized in a bloodless coup.
I’m curious, Wednesday. It seems you agree with how the judge found though I may be misreading your comment. If you do agree, what makes this a coup?
Posted on 12/25/22 at 1:22 pm to Mickey Goldmill
6:42
@DC Draino
Anti-@KariLake partisans shut down machines on election day in GOP
areas
Didn't count ballots at voting centers as reg'd by law
Took over a week to count
No chain of custody docs as req'd by law
And this gets dismissed?!
Maricopa County isn't a banana republic - it's worse
@DC Draino
Anti-@KariLake partisans shut down machines on election day in GOP
areas
Didn't count ballots at voting centers as reg'd by law
Took over a week to count
No chain of custody docs as req'd by law
And this gets dismissed?!
Maricopa County isn't a banana republic - it's worse
Posted on 12/25/22 at 1:26 pm to eitek1
quote:
Going off of memory but this was part of the problem. The Maricopa county folks couldn’t produce the chain of custody documents that validated this happened. The tabulators should have worked but the ballot images were jacked up. BUT the votes were counted via Box 3 so it’s all good, right? Except the chain of custody paperwork for the secure transfer of those votes doesn’t exist.
This is simply not true. Read the opinion. The judge says Lake’s own witness admits the county has the records. She just hadn’t seen them yet.
Posted on 12/25/22 at 1:39 pm to the808bass
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I agree with that. It was an exceptionally bad performance when he needed the squishy middle vote.
Lake needed that “squishy middle vote” as well. She didn’t realize the way she acted turns them off. Someone can badmouth those voters all they want. You aren’t winning a national election or in a purple state/district without them. Some MAGA simply don’t understand that.
Posted on 12/25/22 at 1:40 pm to LSU2ALA
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Lake needed that “squishy middle vote” as well. She didn’t realize the way she acted turns them off. Someone can badmouth those voters all they want. You aren’t winning a national election or in a purple state/district without them. Some MAGA simply don’t understand that
So the best way to campaign is to hide, avoid debates, and refuse to answer any questions....oh, and make sure the media only writes puff pieces about your dodging.
Posted on 12/25/22 at 1:48 pm to David_DJS
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Somewhere along the line, you need to be able to explain with specifics exactly how the cheating happened.
And somewhere along the line, will you have access to everything necessary to explain the specifics?
Posted on 12/25/22 at 1:54 pm to Folsom
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Anti-@KariLake partisans shut down machines on election day in GOP
areas
Didn't count ballots at voting centers as reg'd by law
Took over a week to count
No chain of custody docs as req'd by law
And this gets dismissed?!
You left out that expert testimony was that the 19" ballots were not an accident but instead printed incorrectly on purpose.
Posted on 12/25/22 at 1:56 pm to omegaman66
quote:
You left out that expert testimony was that the 19" ballots were not an accident but instead printed incorrectly on purpose.
You left out some additional context from his testimony...... Judge addresses this in his ruling based on the trial
Posted on 12/25/22 at 2:15 pm to oklahogjr
I have just started reading the opinion. What I find interesting and perplexing is that this judge ordered an immediate 2 day trial and then issued the opinion within a day and yet was able to review hundreds of affidavits and the testimony and the exhibits and still was able to find all the case law from the 1800s to back up his position.
And that’s just the beginning.
And that’s just the beginning.
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